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		<title>Quiet discrimination, Part 2</title>
		<description>Discuss Quiet discrimination, Part 2</description>
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			<title>Archipokrovitel Nikolai says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-540</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It will soon be 12 years since the crime of taking away children happened to my family. What I would like to say is the main thing. We now life is going well, I will not describe the details. The main thing I made for myself a big conclusion, what it is. During this whole time, I kept observations on everyone who did something good or bad to us. Even who wished us good or bad. Starting from specific people and ending with the entire system and states. I have gathered a very large list and to it all the events and actions on its specific points. From those from whom we received help and good wishes and mood, prosperity and well-being went through their lives, both in health, so in finances, and along the entire line of life. And vice versa, from those from whom evil and bad actions and wishes or inaction came in our direction, everything in their life went for the worse, from cancer to painful death. For my part, I had no bad wishes or any actions towards anyone. On the contrary, from me to many there were wishes to be cleansed of negativity and change for the better. Karma exists, and sooner or later we all get what we earn from our karma, and our future generations get the hardest for it. I have 2 big lists that I have been keeping for 12 years. In one list, people, organizations, countries that did everything only good, wished us only good things, and they all have excellent life events. On the other list, on the contrary, the people of the organization, the states that did only bad things to me and wished bad things, were mainly tuned in to their well-being by the desire to make money on my grief, or had envy or were inactive, everything went from bad to worse every year, worse and worse. There were those who were on two lists at once, they were outweighing what they did or desired more, then they received more in the future in life. I will not specifically write who received what for what. But everything is perfect and works 100%. Why am I writing this. Cleansing your karma and atoning for sins is one minimal action. The main thing is, if you want to have a good life for yourself and your future generations, healthy and full of happiness, then change and wish only good things for others, do only good things for others and you will have a life ten times better. If you wish others bad things and do bad things to others, then you and your generations will go through life dozens of times worse. The law of karma works.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Archipokrovitel Nikolai</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2022 02:25:51 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Archipokrovitel Nikolai says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-530</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Many people ask me. What is the continuation of this story? I wrote about this at the forum, where the main discussion is being held. Here I will say in shortly. The children were returned back after 4 years. Now at the moment, everything is fine. Thanks to everyone who helped in this. Thank you all for your comments. Thank God for help. This story, says that if you believe in God and turn to him, then he will help to get out of the most "desperate situation".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Archipokrovitel Nikolai</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 21:47:19 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>grathen says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-507</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Nobody knows what really happens. Nobody really know what to do because something really weird happens. I read this story about Pokrovski family and I heard it not the first time. Everything started from Europe and extended to America, or vice versa. It doesn’t really matter when our people and our families suffers so much from this. Just two days ago I watched an interview with a woman who got married in Norway and everything that happened to her over there. After she divorced her husband in Norway, the social workers took away her children motivating it by a poor home atmosphere and little rooms for her two kids and so on…She has two children, the one born in Russia is already 13 years old and another is younger, from the second marriage from Norway. A kind of program started in Europe that says that each social worker has a good % from each kid that was taken away from his family. The government is paying a million $ for each kid taken away. And the story with a lot of babies and young children who were taken away from their families started here. They were coming every 2 or three days to make sure everything is that bad as they want to be so they can take the kids as soon as possible. This woman paid a lawyer and she said she must keep calm and think very well before doing or saying something to social workers. They finally took her kids and sent her to a psychiatry clinic so she would prove she is a good mother. She accepted and they told she must visit him twice per week during half a year, so they can be sure she is not dangerous for her kids, and she accepted again. During this period her son called her and told there are transported to another city, being adopted by another family. She was totally shocked but she tried to keep calm and started to ask the why they did it to her. The social workers said that her kids will have a better life in another family. After half a month her son called her from an unknown number and was begging to took him back home because he lives in a gay couple and they want to film him in a porn movie. She was so shocked but she couldn’t do anything, and the social workers said she will be sued because she is against this family of two fathers, because they are legally married and they can do whatever they want to with “their” kid. After a time her son run away from that family and this women run to Russia with him, but they couldn’t take the second son, because it was impossible. The idea is that this kid found out a way to run by himself, because she had no chance to took him by herself.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>grathen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 08:51:37 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Valery says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-506</link>
			<description><![CDATA[What is happening to our society? Is this a new tendency to take children of their parents initiated by our governments to make people more frightened? This tendency can be seen in many countries and this becomes a norm to take away kids from families on any simple occasion. I heard about terrified parents in Ireland who even afraid that social workers will come take away their child if he gets a small bruise after falling down. Children who are older and can understand that social workers can come and take them away from their home if somebody from their neighborhood will complain that rthey hear child’s cry are also frightened. It is natural for children to cry, it is a part of their nature. They play, their mood can change if in the process of game they fail to do something, for example they build a castle and it is suddenly falls down, so a child can burst into cries. I know that children even afraid to cry aloud now. This leads to the problems with their emotional development - they starts to suppress their emotions. Many psychologists say that it is wrong, it is important for children to show their emotions. It is very bad that this tendency is not well enough describes in the mass media by the well-known psychologists and experts on child behavior. Just have a look what happened with Pokrovsky: Nikolay was looking for help in mass media and they refused to publish his story. Nikolay Pokrovsky and his wife were recognized by many psychologists as a good and loving parents, and there is no psychological reason to isolate their children from them. I do not even mention the financial position of the family, it is obviously well-doing family if they could afford moving into a new house. In this situation what is the most important problem is stress that children get being isolated from their parents. They are too small to understand fully that their parents are not guilty. There is a possibility that they later will blame their parents for those years spent in the separation. The employees of ACS should be not so cruel. They deal with young souls which are so easy to hurt. They must know a lot about child psychology and behavior. And of cause, the activity of ACS employees must be aimed at happiness and psychological stability of kids inside their family and not at isolation them from their parents for any formal reason. I would advise to discuss the petition with a child psychologist or an expert on child behavior. I believe that there is a need in such organizations as Administration for Children's Services and SCO in our society. The problem is the lack of specially educated people in such organizations, each employee should have psychological education to work there. The reason for it is that our actions should lead finally to happiness of children.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Valery</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 08:01:46 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>ZeAlien says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-502</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Actually this is hard to believe that adequate adult people in a modern society can do such a terrible things. We are not living in a Stone Century anymore. We have mobile phones, Internet, personal cars and cheap flights. We have opportunity to travel all over the world and to compare how people live in different countries. We can choose the profession, place of living, style of wearing and sexual orientation. We are protecting animals and wild nature against the rude attitude. It is normal for us to sort garbage, to think ecologically and to donate money for the less successful people of our society. We respect freedom, democracy and opportunity of any person to express himself the way he wants. We understand value of these things and we are ready to fight for them. How can it be possible that someone still do not understand the great importance of native family in a child’s life? It is normal to visit the psychologist when we feel some difficulties. We all heard that most of inner personal problems came from a childhood. It is logical that we should care about every child’s good feeling, psychical health and positive environment around him. What can be better for a happy childhood, then living in his native family with his own parents, who love him and care the best way they can? Of course life cannot always be cloudless. Sometimes family has some problems with relationships, health, money, changing the place of living or integration in a new society, but that does not mean that they should give their children to someone’s charge during this time. It is great if government can help families during these difficult periods. They can help with some benefits, parent courses, psychologist’s consultations or just sending some person, who can spend some time with children while parents are solving their problems outside the home, but they shouldn’t forcibly take children from their families and to injure their young hearts. I think such aggressive action is a real crime and people who are responsible for that should receive a punishment. Everything what they have done with this family is a violence against children and their parents. The most terrible thing is the fact, that this situation will not be ever forgotten. Even if these children will come back to the family they will remember this dark time all their life. The psychological consequences of this situation will stay with them all their life. They have already gotten problems with attention, concentration and aggressive behavior. Besides, I suppose they could get problems with faith in people, God and justice. Their entire happy childish world was crushed down in a one day and they will need long years in future to restore it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>ZeAlien</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:13:53 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>GaMer says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-501</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I would like to say that Pokrov family is really very brave. First of all they are struggling for their children. Second, they do not give up. I suppose only people with the clear hear could struggle so for their own happiness. It all looks like a real war. Children have to be separated from their parents. But they know that their parents will save them from this awful situation. I have read an article about such families, who succeeded in such a war. You know, these families became so strong after such situations. In such families the happiness is the most important thing. Children, who know already the price of being together with the parents, are much more attentive to their parents. They understand more things and they even are better in their school and university life. For sure, they are much more stronger in their adult life. And even when they already become parents their behavior is the other from their parents`. I am sure that such experience in the life is not sent by God just for fun, but for people to be more united in the life. People understand each other better and they precise the family. Maybe, I am too rude, but for some families such experience is not bad. There are families, where parents and children do not understand each other and they do not appreciate the family`s institute. In such circumstances, the life gives us the opportunity to become stronger and to know that there are things in the life that we should appreciate. What things do we appreciate? Money? Good clothes? What else? Why don`t we think about our health, about members of the family? Why don`t we carry about them? We are striving to the things that do not have the price. What do we think about? Every mother and father should love their children and should treat them in a proper way. We should understand that God gives us children and he decides whether we are good parents or not. Only due to our attention, our hard work on the family we can understand that the family is the one thing we have in this life. our sisters and brothers, our parents. I want to say, that we should be more attentive, nicer with our family members. We should listen to each other. And we even do not hear what our children are talking about. They do not need new toys or new dresses; they want us, their parents. And we should give them our attention. Because we have born them, we are answering for their health, not only physical, but mental, too. That is why, we should have more time with the children, play with them, read them books, laugh and go for walks. They need it more than we. Try to remember yourself in the childhood. I am sure, you remember not they toys, but some memories, connecting with a good dinner with the entire family, some holidays, So, carry about children!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>GaMer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 04:10:56 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Titus says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-500</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello! I want to support the Pokrovsky's family again. You guys are very strong and brave. Well done! After all, to make a choice - it is a serious decision. We are ready to mentally and prayerfully support your actions in this direction. Of course, the difficulty lies in the fact that it is difficult to predict the outcome of the process. But in this case makes clear awareness that this option "relationship" with officials "most acceptable" and he determined our choice. By adopting such an option, you have made a commitment that the chosen course of action will provide the desired result. This commitment helps you and us to focus our efforts and prayers for achieving results. Believe, fight! And soon, your children will be near to you. And happiness again will fill your hearts and come into your life. Because you know how to cope with difficulties and problems of life. And you are able to successfully withstand a variety of stressful situations and overcome internal state of discomfort. We all know that people who are in the process of experiencing adversity not turn in on themselves and talk about their problems and difficulties of others, usually feel more comfortable than those who retires and is alone with himself. God is with you!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Titus</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:03:22 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>78Tyr says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-498</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is good that so many people have something to say about what has happened to this family. The more are aware of this system that separates families the better it is to fight with it altogether. No one would like to go through what Pokrovski family had to and unfortunately is still going through. I don’t understand why and how actually government, officials or other responsible for peace and order people allow this to happen. Looks like today people already can’t see between good and evil and right and wrong. If social workers really cared to the kids why then they took them from normal family environment and put them to live with strangers? From what Nikolay says it is clear children’s health suffers both mentally and physically. If you really care why not to show your love and care by doing something that actually benefits both the children and their family? It definitely should not be a normal practice just to go into somebody’s house, sniff around and then break somebody’s life. And how it became possible to keep children for so many years away from their parents when there are proofs and all the certificates available that there is nothing wrong with them. Well obviously somebody gains something from this situation and interested to keep the children somewhere else rather than in their own home. It is good that at least kids can stay at the weekends but of course it is nothing compared to how it is meant to be. But if the social workers allow them to stay a couple of days a week then they consider it is safe to live with the real family and why then would not they let kids back for good? I hope that there would be another court soon regarding this outrageous situation and they will make the right decision. To deal with something like that and live with it for many years is unbearable. Perhaps that is what all the officials want, just wait till people completely loose all their energy, health, money, hope etc. and just give up on their kids. May God give you enough persistence, energy, courage and other means to return your children! You have been doing your best all this time all I believe that all your efforts won’t be wasted. Because of your work so many people have learned what has happened and no one likes today’s system that interferes with the families and takes away everything. And how many other people out there are suffering similar situations? And how many more are going to be affected? Only by sticking together people can fight this machine and change the system. I don’t know if all of the social workers and people involved into this situation really think what they do is right or maybe there are some who are also not happy about the present situation and want to change it. We should pray that all of them will see their mistakes and that more kind hearted and honest people will be in social organizations like ASC.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>78Tyr</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:27:48 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kipar says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-496</link>
			<description><![CDATA[renata, I do agree with you. These parents are doing their best to return their children home. A few people would do it. Because it's really difficult to cope with such life troubles. And to be brave and strong enough to struggle to the bitter end. I think love add them strength. They are very wisdom people and their struggle for their children is worthy of respect. And I hope this family will be reunited as soon as possible. Because this people deserve it. And I hope all guilty in this crime people will be punished. Because it's how the things should be if in this world true still remains. And I even afraid to think how many people now are separated with their children and are in the same unfair situation. And I believe that all such parents will have straight to fight for their children. And family Pokrovsly's behaviour will be a good example and inspiration for them. Our prayers are with you.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kipar</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:16:57 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>renata says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-493</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well, yes the situation is not one of the easiest, actually. And I cannot believe this is happening in our century. And where- in America, a country which is considered to be one of the most democratic countries, where the law is supposed to work for the sake of the citizens, where special attention is paid to the education of the kids and their moral, physical and psychological development. But having read all the text, I can’t believe that such a story actually happens. Such a situation really affects the kids on psychological and physical level. I am even putting down the talks now about the fairness towards the parents of the kids, about their broken lives. But why do the kids deserve to be in a situation like that? Children, who are being brought up without kids actually lack normal childhood, and people, who lack the childhood often do not develop psychological and physically very well. As it comes – the character, personality and future of any person mostly depends on his childhood, on the fundament that is brought in the early childhood. I am actually shocked by the social workers towards the whole situation. How is it possible to be that indifferent and that cold in order to prevent the children’s getting back to their homes. What for is this whole shit? This is nothing for them, but for 5 people at least it means broken lives. Why do they allow that? I guess there are definitely reasons beyond the clear situation – some personal, religious or other reasons. I mean there is an attitude towards the Pokrovskiy family, as the whole situation is very strange. As for the blaming that there are no normal conditions for the children’s upbringing I do not believe anything like that. I have personally seen how American themselves live and in which conditions some of the keep their houses. Well, that is a true danger for the kids – but what happens is that the system sends a team of special people who clean and repair the house, they change the conditions themselves. But noone even comes to take the kids away as it really does not make sense. But it is crazy, that even after the parents do everything possible and impossible to get their kids back, the children are still not returned back for more than 4 years. And I am sure that the parents really try to do everything possible. Even creation of this site is a prove for getting their kids back. They seem normal adequate people trying to get what belongs to them back. I totally understand them, understand their desperation, their anger and their desire for fair treatment. But well, ok if there are any other reasons, but how come that children deserve anything like that? Why do they do it to them? It is a must for any child to be raised and brought up with his parents so that he can develop physically, morally and emotionally. The situation should be helped.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>renata</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:30:03 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kipar says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-492</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Today as we can see according to the history of Pokrovsky's family and other example I've read about governmental officials have the right to take children from families on the basis of the "act" that was drowned up by them. The decision of the children taken away can be based only on personal subjective feelings of foster care employees (carpet, toys and other stuff ), even if there is no evidence of the need for immediate removal of children . Most often, children are taken without any registration of any documents. Then return of children until a court decision is not possible (and as we see in this example even court decision isn't reason for children return) even if these governmental officials violated the law during children taking away from family. If the court decides to return the child to the family and recognizes the claim of social cervices ungrounded, they don't bear responsibility for the broken lives of people. Imagine what it means for a child to be forcibly separate with his mother for several months. Often after such visits, children are returned not only traumatized for life, but also undermined the physiological health. I hope that these children will be returned very soon. And in common regulation about social services will be changed and limited.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kipar</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 05:38:29 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Libelle says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-488</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yeah, the situation is difficult. Very sad. It is a pity that all this happens in real life, and not on the pages of the training benefits. Why the child's needs so ignored? After all, the most persistent deviations in psychophysical development manifested in those cases where the reaction of others accentuate and exacerbate psychological problem child, the same one that is generated or fixed relation thereto adults. Trying to cope with the difficulties in the child's behavior, adults, unconsciously, by their behavior, on the contrary , they are cultured and perpetuate. And so it grow "losers." Leading psychological feature in this worst case, personal development is the increase in the level of anxiety that is characterized by uncertainty about self, constant anxiety, agitation. Cause of increased levels of anxiety can serve any adversity, trouble living conditions of the child (in this case, the children were taken from relatives, native people), negative assessment of his associates, difficulties in communication, etc. These kids are experiencing increased levels of anxiety, as suffered deep psychological trauma (family dramatic events parting with people to whom have grown accustomed and attached). It's horrible , but being in a state of anxiety , children are constantly experiencing a sense of threat, anticipation of uncertain danger. Context that a significant portion of the children would be perceived as quite ordinary, with a high level of anxiety causes a lot of stress. For the child who is a long time in this state, characterized by persistent concerns and fears. Also, the child finds it difficult to independently make any decision, the reason for this is the excessive fixation on the adverse consequences that may result from a particular intention. My dear, and you know that by increasing the level of anxiety leads to serious difficulties in learning and communication, adversely affected in all spheres of child's life. Anxiety, doubt, concern, disrupting social activity and activity of the child, will lead to failure, rejection, negative estimates by adults. A failure, in turn, cause the child to worry, helping perpetuate failure. Well, tell me now at the mercy of: Is this the future of these kids deserve?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Libelle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:37:46 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>agata says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-486</link>
			<description><![CDATA[James Casey The Orphanage Eight years, perhaps more Tending chores, mopping floors Forsaking a child of suckling breast Where righteousness gives Mom a rest. Where children go who have no place To welcome them, their dirty face Dirty secrets, hamper-bared Where no one cries cause no one cares. Nor the child not tending the soil Who living from dawn to dusk, recoils From worlds without, to worlds within A mothers secret, a fathers sin. Where all the rooms are neatly trimmed Fences and walls hide the pain within Tear ducts are all dried up, and fail Condemned to live in children's' hell. To work for naught and have only chores To die within and live no more To wash away the parent's sin Where heaven stops and hell begins…]]></description>
			<dc:creator>agata</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 23:54:00 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>agata says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-484</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I’ve received e-mail letter from my friend about this situation in the Pokrov family . And I’ve decide to post on the forum, too. Because (without exaggeration) I am in fright situation. Whole story makes me feel really distressing and shocked. Poor children! What are they passing throughout? How is this possible NOW – in 21 century? The world is going wild and foolish. And that is why we have to change the world. First, not be passive and heartless. Such situations do not have to repeat NEVER more.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>agata</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 03:49:32 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>cooper says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-481</link>
			<description><![CDATA[My colleague told me about this forum, because I saw as she was writing something and I asked about those children on the picture. She told me this story and explained the situation the Pokrov family is passing through. I was in shock. I coudn't imagine something like this can ever happen to someone in this world. I was asking and asking and I registered by myself to read everything, because it is a very long story and so much years have passed since then. I hope so much you will take your children home! I hope so much social workers to wake up and understand this situation from this family point of view! I read all the comments to this post and I am terrified! So much cases people know about taking children away from their families! The women who told us about those cases they are doing this just for money! I am really speakless in tears! Dear POkrov family, please, be strong!!! Please, do not lose hope!!! Everything will be just fine and you will see your kids back in your family, I am very sure about it. Nobody has the right to take them away! Nobody has the right to make your family suffer so much! Lord is very good to us and He sees everything and everybody! Never ever lose hope because God has plans for you, and God can see everything what is happening with you and He can easily see your endless suffer! I am sure he has something very good for your future and for your children future. Something like not for everybody else. We all know Jesus Christ suffered a lot and he was so good to people and he trust people until now, but he suffered for our sake! Like you are suffering for your children's sake right now! You know how Lord loved his Son Jesus Christ, but he let him suffer and let him die in pain and then he took him in Heaven. I am sure He knows for sure you are suffering too much and He is waiting for the right moment to explain you why He did it to you and why your children has to suffer so much far away from their family. Be patient and be good to this people who tokk your kids away, because they will go to hell and they will feel on their skin what is this like. Stop thinking negative and be very very optimistic, because in a short period of time you will have your children back, you'll see it! I would love to help you somehow, but I feel so weak in front of you, because you are the most powerful family I ever seen in this life! I am so much proud there are such families who love their children so much and who are trying to get them back years along! God bless you and your whole family, and you beautiful and smart children!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>cooper</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:15:17 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>tasty says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-480</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I have already heard this story from my friend… Now I read this on Pokrovsky site and I feel terrified. I am afraid for the future of my family and my children. To see your small kids during several hours for 4 years not able to give them all your love and care…Poor kids, they really suffer for nothing! Dear social workers! Think about the future of those kids, think about those 3 souls that you cut with a knife, separating from their parents, please let live with their parents!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>tasty</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 01:23:49 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>writer says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-479</link>
			<description><![CDATA[That is the story I would never hear about, but I read it and I believe it. I feel the pain and I cannot understand why this happened to their family. In every word by Nikolay and Kira I feed the need to heard by other people, they need our help and compassion. And they need to by heard by those who committed this crime. Yes, I dare to call it a crime. Children are stolen, and they are kept like prisoners. They do not understand why they cannot live with their mom and dad as before. They will never understand it, but they will never forget these 4 years as well when they were not at home. I feel anger for those whose actions lead to such a situation destroying family. And I really do feel for the parents. Hey, just look: these members of SCO and ACS services are so tricky in their desire to separate children from their parents! They can even pretend even before the law: that is what they did in the court. They were blaming parents and inventing tricks to prove their own rightness. This is obviously shameful behavior! They deserve condemnation. Moreover, children are separated from their loving parents, children are suffering! What can be more appealing reason for those social workers? This is incredible cruelty. they It was proved by many psychologists that Nicolay and his wife are mentally healthy. They have a house, work and whatever children need, I am sure the parents can give it to them! Let children live with their parents! If this is a scheme, an illegal scheme to take children to a foster home and get money for each child from the government, some governmental bodies should control this. It is getting a little bit better, I read in the latest post by Nicolay. They let children to stay with their parents fro weekends. But why do they still keep them in a foster home? Maybe the members of SCO and ACS services hope that the parents will soon give up fighting. Reading the latest post from Nicolay I can conclude that they are not going to leave their kids. Moreover, they will fight until the end. They will come to the US President with their petition. Those who keep Pokrovsky’s children, clean up your acts! Look at what you have done, the whole world is against you, the world condemnы your aggressive actions! You will be punished eventually for your crime.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>writer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:06:47 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Frida says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-474</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The problem is not in the state or in the figures, who present the administration and government. The problem is in the entire system. I agree with Matan about it. It is really very terrible situation. Everything could happen. And I won`t be surprised if in the nearest future we will be really told what to do. Thought, today we are also told. The government gives us its orders. And the funniest thing we do it. We live according to the laws we do not like, according to the rules which we did not make. If today we have already such a situation that we do not have a choice,what will be next?... it is tragedy of all mankind. People live and do not understand that they are manipulated by the administrations . People do not have time to understand it, because all of us are busy with the businesses, with our families. We simply do not notice as the officials intrude upon our life, our private life! I am afraid that my children will live in the other, changed world. And their choice is already done by somebody. But I do not want such an evolution of our life. We had to struggle for our rights. We had to stand up and to say that we do not agree with the today`s politics. It is really important to remember that one can do nothing, but if there is already a great amount of people, everything could be changed in every country. So, what is the problem? Why do not begin with our country? We could be the best sample for others. We should not permit to our government to take our children. Who else if not mother knows how to treat the children the best way? Who else if not a father knows what to teach the children to? Who else if not parents know what to do, what to say, where to go or not? I wonder who else could our children to be able to be real mature adults in the world full of aggression, lack of understanding and lack of moral principles? What is our world if today we allow to somebody to take our children away? Why do not we oppose to such laws that lead us into the hellhole? That is why I am sure we cannot just sit near the TV set on our cozy sofa and just discuss the situation we already have. We should struggle for those, who are already in the situation like this; we should help to each other to overcome all the difficulties and obstacles in order to get the other way of evaluation. Aren`t we worth of better future? Aren`t our children worth of better place to live? So, I appeal to everyone: we should help, we should support each other and be sympathetic to the problems of our neighbors and friends. If we stay the same as today, the world could change not to a better. We have to change the world.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Frida</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:08:31 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Matan says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-471</link>
			<description><![CDATA[And i want to add that we all now can observe how the state interferes into people's life. It interferes into so private things that definitely shouldn't be touched by public officers. And it scares me the most. I'm afraid that government won't stop at this point. The state will go further...Relat ionships, sex, marriage, love? What is next? What will we be told to do in the future? Whom to marry to? If government already knows how I have to rise my children, why shouldn’t it knows whom I have to marry to. Maybe you think I'm paranoid. But I'm sure that it is our closest future. And even we will be «the lucky ones» thet will be able to experience these changes and not only our children and grandchildren. The changes will come to soon.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Matan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:06:45 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Matan says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-468</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I wouldn't intrust to those officials not only decisions making about fate of a child, but even the fate of a puppy or kitten. Because they ыщ are corrupted, that I think if they were offered a lot of money, they would sell their own children. I can understand when children are taken from a family of alcoholics, but to take children out of the safe, normal family is complete insanity. Well, it is obvious that all the forces are trying to destroy the normal family relationships. The institute of family is being destroying right now and we can see preparation of platform for depersonalized, spiritless, embittered society. Where all connections with the roots of the family are lost. Now instead of supporting parents who are in financially difficult situation and pay them for the education of children in the family, money are given to a stranger. What psychological injury can a child obtain nobody doesn’t care about it. After all, children love their parents and when they are separated a child can obtain a blow from which he or she would never recover. Taking children away is the same crime as a violence for life and health. Without a court decision it shouldn't be possible to take away the child from the family, and each case should be treated separately and very carefully. This must be possible only in rare cases where the mother is an alcoholic or a drug addict pathological. And it has to be done only after the trial. In all the rest cases, taking children from their family is simply unacceptable. Only parents can decide how to raise a child. The connection between parents and their children is the most profound thing, and these feelings cannot be replaced. Even if parents periodically punish a child this is normal. Children still love them. And children themselves. Do these monsters from social care ask whether they want to be taken away from their parents? And to be taken in some strange please. I'm sure children would say no. Additionally, I hope that Pokrovsky family will succeed in their struggle and will be happily reunited with their children.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Matan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:20:39 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title> Rio says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-466</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is awful that this family has been going through this injustice for so many years! And as was noticed by scorpio on this forum such things are indeed “disapproved by the society but they happen”. And I think it is strange why they happen if people actually don’t approve any of such actions? Well in the end we are supposed to live in a democratic society! What is even more strange is that it actually takes place in the USA, a country believed to be a country of freedom, liberty and democracy of course! I can understand sometimes it happens that the kids are taken away if they live with alcoholics, drunkards or people who don’t look after them at all. In such situation the kids can be well behind in their development and also can be injured or even killed by such parents. But Pokrovski family doesn’t seem to be one of this type of families. They regularly went to doctors with their kids so that they would be healthy and looked after them all the time. They even have all the certificates to prove they are not mentally ill and they never took drugs. So it is strange why social workers took away their children without any reasonable explanation. The reason that childrens’ toys were on the floor seems like a joke. And so, what is wrong with the toys on the floor if kids play with them? These people who think it is not normal, when they were kids themselves where were their toys? In a closet or on the shelves all lined up tidy and neat? And never on the floor? That would be hard to believe! The kids should live with their families if they love them and care. No kid would like to go to an orphanage or to live with somebody else while there are those who love them. Another thing which is unclear, if social workers thought that Pokrovski family are a threat to their kids, why they didn’t talk to people who know this family? Obviously they could get a realistic profile then, and in this case it looks like they have done the whole thing without even being reasonable enough. It is hard to say that they are fully professional or competent. And it is scary that such people hold an important position when they decide about other people’s lives. Also another thing why it was necessary to break into their apartment at night with armed policemen? Are these people some drug barons or maffia? If social workers care about people and kids in particular why then they traumatized them this way? So many things are unclear and still the kids are taken away like some piece with no feelings or emotions. It is good that the family had a curt decision to return their kids, but why nobody fulfilled this decision? Is there anyone at all in this legal or social system to make sure that court’s decisions are observed? Otherwise what is the sense in having a judge and then neglect all that was decided?]]></description>
			<dc:creator> Rio</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2014 05:34:09 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Carrot says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-463</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think this is an awful situation and the law is violated, therefore the only way out is to find good lawyers and to make complains on these workers of Administration for Children's Services. How could this happen? Is that going on because the parents has founded their religious movement Pokrov? In any way, can this be a real problem for children’s growth? I do not see any problems in Pokrov ideas, they are exactly not a sect, they are not going to be radical in their religious movement, and instead they offer to study all religions and to pray commonly. This is so cruel and unjust especially when innocent kids becomes victims of someone’s dirty games. To withdraw children from their parents is the most painful way to punish parents. This should be done only in extreme situations, when there is real potential threat to their physical or mental health. It was all ok with Pokrovsky family, and the Court prove that. Then why finding other silly reasons to separate children with their parents? Kira even had to go to those special classes for parents, though she told she did not need them. She could give her children good education and she gave them care and love. Now poor kids deprived of parental care and love. Moreover, they are as if in prison, they believe that this situation will finally end. They hope to live happily with their parents. The children are unhappy; this is what we see in the pictures. Nikolay, their father is convinced that this all happened due to religious discrimination. I believe him, this can be true, since the traditional church is so powerful and they have state support. They are big and they are interested in destroying any other strong religious movement. This is terrible and shameful to call with threats and to use such methods of revenge. Shame on those people from Administration for Children's Services who abused their badges to serve some powerful players.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Carrot</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:36:55 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>regina says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-460</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This whole story makes me feel really sad and shocked. It should not be the way it is. If a family is normal, if kids are fine and there is nothing risky in the family environment for the lives and health of the kids, the kids should never taken in any other situation from their native families. Don’t these organizations understand that it is extremely harmful for the kids to be taken from their parents. There is nothing more dearest to them than their own parents and how sad and unfair that is when children get taken from such families. To me, the whole situation is absurd and I am shocked that even with such struggling and effort to get the kids back, the family did not get them yet. How stubborn and stupid can those social workers be that prolong giving the kids back. What do they want more? Don’t they understood that any excellent best conditions in the houses that they provide will never substitute family atmosphere that they get at home with their parents. Moreover, one thing is that a kid lack a normal childhood that he should have – normal breakfasts, normal dinners with his family,normal movie nights with the whole family, normal expectations and preparations for the upcoming holidays. But such separation from the parents really affects their psychological development also. They do not develop and grow with a peaceful attitude. No. They grow up thinking that they have to struggle throughout this life, because the thing that they are meant to feel due to such laws of Nature, is love, they do not feel it. And they grow up being aggressive, being unconfident in the society, being distrustful to people that they meet. It is very harmful for them. And I am shocked as the organizations usually state as this is done for the sake of the kids. The world is going crazy.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>regina</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 08:05:43 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>marina says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-458</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I have been reading about the situation and to be honest I am quite shocked at that. Firstly, I am so surprised it happens in America. To me it seems as a very unfair treatment of the Pokrov family, if everything written is total truth, then it is really unfair of the social organization in relation to the Pokrov family. However, on the other hand, maybe it even does not make me surprised that those things happen in America particularly. There have been several cases that I have heard on TV lately. Those stupid sewing cases that just do not make sense. When the law stands against those who are not in any way involved in anything criminal or illegal. It just gets crazy sometimes. But the thing that makes me really sad is that real people, real families and real children get really hurt from this craziness. It is real people whose lives get broken. What worse can for a parent than somebody taking the kids from the family for no real reasons, for the falsified complains? Is anything worse can be for the kids, for whom the best place is the home with their mother and father than somebody taking those kids somewhere they don’t even understand where. I am being a psychologist by profession and I am confident that such an atmosphere for the kids is never better than their home. Even if gets sometimes that the atmosphere in the home is not always peaceful, it is still the best place for the kids to grow in. When a kid gets isolated from his parents, it plays a very negative role in his life. Firstly, he does not get that childhood process which is the base for the further development and growth of the child. It significantly impacts the self esteem of the child. When a child is raised in his home family environment where he feels natural love from his parents, his self esteem develops on the proper level. However, when he is surrounded by good psychologists, perfect social workers, that even do everything the way it is meant to, they care, teach him, train him but he cant feel that natural love – the one that he feels from his parents. Then, as a child gets his low self-esteem, it very much impacts the decisions and choices that he makes in the future. Unfortunately, but people with low self esteem often develop with an abnormal greed for power and control. The use violence methods, as a kid is not familiar with what adequate self-esteem is, self-love is. Taking kids from the family is not good in any reason. As long as parents are psychologically adequate, do not have any alcohol or drug addiction. But if the parents are fine, if they truly care for their children, it is very cruel to take those kids from such families. It is cruel to both – parents and kids. Don’t they understand that? I have heard such cases before and my view is that this truly may be dome for money matters. Organizations need reasons to work and to take money from the government. They have to support their budget statements that they bring to the government with real facts. And the more kids they have, the more reasons they get for getting money from the government. The government, thinking they do all fairly and truly care for the families and kids well being, nicely give the proposed budget. But it is really sad that from the greed of those families, real people get hurt and get their lives broken. Kids are the most important and the most valuable thing for any of the parents. As well as parents are the most precious thing for their kids. It is abnormal to separate such families. It is very cruel and moreover, being a believer, I feel this is a very big sin. Hopefully, the situation will turn for the better for this lovely family. This topic should be spread further so that soon it will get to the people that will truly help as for them it is a matter of life. Such actions of the social workers should be stopped as they ruin the lives of people that have nothing to blame for.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>marina</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 07:44:15 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>sunny says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-456</link>
			<description><![CDATA[was seeking for such cases through youtube and found lots of videos where families are complaining about the same situation. I thought it is just about America, NOPE! all around the world. Russia, Bulgaria, Ukraine, in Europe it is a kind of business. They are paying each social worker for children they are taking away from their families. Each country has different rate for this crazy things. Also, they are taking away children who are: - Super-size youngsters taken away by social workers after being overfed - One child had a BMI of 35 - the equivalent of a six-foot man weighing 19st - Comes as an increasing number of parents give in to children's cravings. Guys, if talking about the super sized youngsters- its not so much people eat 'too' much or that they feed their children 'too' much, its the access to quality food that these parents cannot get. The constant ads from food companies that their food is the what we should eat, the rise of fast food outlets, the expansion of supermarket processed food or 'easy' take away food, all of which adds the pounds to our bodies! The social workers should step in earlier and educate these families on why and what food to eat to keep them healthy,don't you think so??? Also, found a lot of information about social services in the UK that are ruthless and cruel and so on. I think one can never, ever, underestimate what a profoundly awful experience having a bad time with Social Services must be. There is very little (possibly nothing, now that capital punishment no longer exists in this country) that the law can do to you that is worse than taking your children away. And for that reason, whilst people like this are wrong and misguided, I can see why they are driven to these awful pieces of decision-making . If you’re going to get your child back, social workers are going to be a part of your life. So making social workers frightened of you, or not being able to work with you, or think that you’re a liar or unstable, isn’t going to help. That’s not to say that you have to like them – or even be terribly nice to them. Your best approach is “I know you’ve got a job to do, and I don’t like that you doing it has hurt my family, but I also know that I’ve got to show you that I can care for my children”]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:44:58 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Alaska says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-455</link>
			<description><![CDATA[How awful to find out that some people still does not think about their actions implications, can not understand how many hurts and pain can be caused because of their unreasoned decisions. They do not understand what they are doing, what a terrible sufferings bring in lives of these children. Children are losing their entire world in one moment. Everything what they had is lost. They do not understand anymore how to live further and what to expect of their life. They cannot believe people around them anymore, they are closing in their pain and it is very hard to find contact with them. They do not feel support and safety, they are depended from foreign people, love and connection with beloved people is lost. Actually, such feelings may cause a depression in the heart of an adult. But when we are speaking about children, their psychics can protect it with very deep changing. It may cause aggression, apathy, child can lose skills he has already got and to return the previous level of development. Child who has lost emotional closeness does not have opportunity to develop normally. All his inner energy is focused on his inner anxiety and trying to get calm. Child blames the entire world that he is so unhappy and is looking for defects in himself. He is angry to all surrounding world and he hates himself. Someone may think that little children do not remember that they had other life some time ago and that they do not understand what is happening. That is not true. Everyone, especially little child needs love and emotional contact and when it is lost he feel himself like being betrayal. That means pain, sufferings, aggression and psychological disturbance. Such tragic event as exemption from his family is a biggest grief in his short life. All these feelings may be forgotten, but they will leave their mark in their soul anyway. Usually child is going through three stages of grief when he is exempted from family. First stage is a simple shock. This period can last about one month. Child does not feel the pain, he does not feel anything. He cannot understand what happened and is trying to hide this fact from himself. Child's body reacts with rapid heartbeat, stomach disorders, problems with a sleep, sweating, dry mouth and muscle tension. He is trying to get rid of this feeling and can become very aggressive and hydrodynamic. The next stage lasts about a year and this is very painful time. He understands that cruel reality is stronger that a hope, but still does not want to deal with it. This is time of apathy, depression, suicidal thoughts feeling of hopelessness and loss of interest in life. Problems in thinking, remembering and attention may appear. Child does not feel interest and does not have energy and forces for doing everyday actions. The last stage is time of agreement with a loss. There are fewer tears in his life and he starts smiling sometimes. This is beginning of returning for a normal life, but that does not mean child had left his suffering in the past. This terrible pain will remain in his heart for a whole life and will be reminding about itself all life long.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Alaska</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:17:04 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>sunny says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-453</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Was thinking about thsi story so much. Read the whole comments and I can say I agree to almost everybody, but I know I can't help with it, and it's very sad.Reading all this stuff makes me really really sad. Who can help with this situation? Who can understand better that the guys whose children were taken away, who can advice and will these advices help them somehow?... It's pretty weird children are taken away from their parents or their loved ones. Who can love this kids more than their parents? Who can be a better advicer for them and who can support them better when in difficult times. I don't know what are these social workers are about or how should they act in different situation, but there should be a logic in their work, I guess...What I have read before has no sense at all and it seems like they are not social workers but some kind of snatchers. Doesn't social workers meant to protect children or to search for those pure kids are starving, having no food and no water. It is also weird social workers are not taking all those children who really need help, they are doing it because of financial issues. Well, you can buy potatoes or let's say mushrooms, but you can't make money on somebody's kids, it is not human! It's not human for families to remain without their little babies, without any sense in life. This guys are killing this family! Are they really so cruel??Can somebody be so cruel to take your children away? This is so crazy! Unbelievable! How can we guys help you? How can we support you? I don't even know what to say...this post killed a part of me, it made me cry and wonder how people can act like that because money? I think social workers are taking advantage this family is not from the USA and doesn't know anything, and can't do anything to protect themselves. Do you imagine feeling so unsafe in your own house? They probably came for a better life, but they can't even imagine how cruel is low with people in America. It's been such a long time they are not living with their kids, I imagine how awful the parents feel about it. How much tears can make social workers understand they can't just come and take someone's kid? Doesn't they have their own kids? It is imposivle to give birth to a child and someone just come to your place and take it from you, telling you are bad as a parent. I can't believe this can happen to me or to someone else in this country. I can't believe our government can't protect them. Do they know about this case? I don't really think they know because they have always protected our country. God, save America- they are destroying it! They are ruining that country whose people were always feeling safe. Alright, this guys came from Russia. What now? They are a part of our family already! They are a part of America! They are paying taxes, rising kids, doing something for this country. How can social workers, people who are believed to protect and to be resonssible for each kid in the world can do such things with their families?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:30:44 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ninel says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-452</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The story is really shocking. All of us here worry about the position of the children and parents` position also. Because the position of parents is much more difficult, I suppose. Everything depends only on them. Of course, children suffer for nothing. That is without words. But what to say about parents who are running from one administration to another with the papers on this case, trying to prove that they are able to take care about the children. For me it seems almost impossible! I can1t even imagine how difficult it is! And one more thing: children… they are surely the ones, who just able to sit and only to wait till parents will do something for them. I just wonder why the authorities still did not give the children back even for the good word of the parents that everything will be good. As is it is possible to think that earlier something was not right! I am sure that earlier everything was in the best order, just watching the photos; we understand what father and mother are Pokrovski. Who will hug someone if he hurts? Surely, nobody. And children are hugging their beloved parents, because they love them, because they live with them in peace. And only due to somebody this family had to suffer from all these troubles that have fallen on their heads. I would like to know what is going in the family, where the children are now. Do they treat them well? What do children eat? What they talk about with these foreign, alien people?.. It is really very difficult to bear such sufferings even for an adult, what to say about a child! Thanks God, they are three and they are not divided in different families. They can be together and they could find help in each other. That is the real happiness for these children. What could be if the children were divided?..]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ninel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:35:27 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pokemon says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-449</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, I also want to read news about what is going on and how the process goes. I hope to hear that some good changes will happen soon and children are at their half way home. Or at least any small changes have been made. Because it's so unfair that these children were so brutally separated and taken from parents. Their happy childhood was interrupted and I hope that it will be fixed soon. nd these children will have time for all these great childish thing with their parents. And also parents will be able to hug and kiss children any time they want and without supervision of some strange people. And they will be ably to play with children, kiss they goodnight and thousands of other happy things. Hope it will be very soon.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pokemon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 02:18:38 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ladyboy says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-448</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is a sad story I read. Everyone should read it, to know what is happening to the happy family that once were happily living together. Read it just to be warned, to be on the safe side (if it is actually possible). So much injustice and cruelty especially towards children. This is no good work of ACS. They should help families to raise their children and not to break hearts and links between parents and their kids. That is not their task, as the father writes it those workers who dared to commit it should be changed. Actually to do the job like helping moms with their kids one must have a open and kind heart, to feel love fro children. These qualities should be examined by a special test, the workers must be examined by the psychologist. And for sure the work should be focused on HELPING mothers, who have more that 2 babies. (Oh, my God, it was so hot times for Kira to take care of two small kids and a baby!) As far as I knew from the story it was done in no way, it means the ACS workers just ignored Pokrovsky family, they came from time to time but did not help Kira. Probably she did not need their service but at least they should come and propose it. It is impossible to work properly when you are blind in reaching the results of your work, which is means ACS workers should not stick at nothing when they try to take away children from their families. If they have fear to loose their jobs they start to work blindly, to palter with facts as they did with Pokrovsky. I would say that it was done to Pokrovsky family in the cruelest way, I mean the children were almost stolen, why should they do it at midnight? The kids were asleep, what a stress they had that night… Poor children, they suffer for nothing. Is it still going on? I mean do they still live separately. Are there any news from Kira and Nikolay this new year? I guess many people want to know what are the new measures the parent take to return their children…]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ladyboy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:39:07 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pokemon says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-447</link>
			<description><![CDATA[On my opinion, the main problem of this whole system lays not on only in the legal field, but on the ethical field. I can extend the range and say that for me the problem lies in the ethical, moral and metaphysical (religious) spheres of human existence. Person should be given the opportunity to live and raise their children, they have to be confident in the future. Consciences of a child, respect and love for homeland have to be raised in this child. And introducing of a soulless machine of termination of parental rights (I'm not talking about how much money will be poured into in this service, maintaining of an army of inspectors and maintenance of judges). Right now we are cultivating traitors and this will begin to destroy the modern society that is already shaking. Family Pokrovsky is ideal example of such system and its brutal actions. I do understand that cases of terrible violence that occurs in some families exist. Such cases can not be excused. But again, I can say that it is necessary to change the situation at large. Then we will be able to see changes in an isolated situation. As a matter of fact the violence and arbitrariness happen not only in families.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pokemon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:18:48 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>lorel says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-446</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't agree with you if law is criminal it means that it's illegal. so in this case criminal law covers up tracks of criminal actions. And I don't think that legal rules allow this (such brutal and unreasoned children taken from their family), no, they were turned to became such rules. Laws were created to protect children when they need protection (for example if parents have drug addiction), but they (legal acts) are now used for criminal actions. And I hope some day everything will be fixed and useful legal acts will be used like they were meant to be used - to protect children who are really suffer. Because it's really unfair and terrible when things that meant to protect somebody no ruin everything that had to be protected.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>lorel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:28:33 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>scorpio  says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-443</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I read the article and I was shocked. During recent years, I heard about such cases when kids were taken away from their mother and father by guardianship authorities. All these cases are disapproved by the society but they happen. I guess that corrupt organization use the Child Care System as means to earn money. But the case with Pokrovsky is quite different. Nikolay several times mentioned that some people called him and tried to intimidate him in order that he stopped his religious movement. Those people blustered threats that they would take away Nikolay’s children. And they did it. There is no evidence that members of Administration for Children's Services are connected with those threats. But their silly attempts to find reasons to take children away by any means can be the evidence that someone put pressure on those people. It was a sophisticated way to make Pokrovsky to give up their activity. It is ridiculous that the decisions of the Court are abused by the Administration for Children's Services. The kids must be with their parents because there is no evident reason to separate them. And the law is at Pokrovsky’s side, that is right. The obstinacy of ACS members leads to terrible situation: parents and children do not live as a single family for years. If they believed the accusation blaming Pokrovsky they should prove them first. As I read those accusations were even not in written form. So, any one can call and blame his opponents. Is that a reason to take away children? I think people in Administration for Children's Services should be more attentive to what they do and think about the consequences of their actions, because to violate the court decisions is not the way people should act in a well-developed society.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>scorpio </dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:08:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Msn19 says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-442</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well the children are legally stolen! Normally the term stolen refers to something done against the law, how ever here it is obvious that everything is done according to the law, so tricky that even the lawyers can not help! It is absolutely not normal to live like this, all your life fearing something or someone. And it shouldn’t be that way. I don’t think that before people were living in constant fear of something like this happening to them or their children. I think that if someone wants to harm some individual or the whole family then such people will find any excuse. In this situation with Pokrvski’s children the reasons were stupid, people didn’t like the carpet or the toys on the floor, or not enough food in the fridge. There was a similar case of taking away the children with Indian family working in Norway. Then social workers didn’t like that they ate food with their hands and a child was sleeping in the same bed with adults. So what your habits are, traditions, believes, views even what food, toys, etc. you have all these things can be sufficient to break a family. And today people even use the kids to manipulate adults. For example a kid at school or somewhere else can tell kind and helpful social workers, teachers and other adults that he is reprimanded or punished at home or don’t get the things he wants or his own way. And that is enough to take a kid away and parents can be put in prison. Unfortunately it is a reality, and yes no one is secure. Back in time it was absolutely normal to punish a naughty kid. If you do something wrong then there is always a punishment, and if the kids always do what they want and get away with it then what to expect from them when they are older? So many kids these days are materialistic, violent and disrespectful and no one cares, people think it is aright. And when the kids are taken away so easily from normal families they also think it is alright. It looks like the consciousness of people has changed completely and they can see the truth from a lie. What is even worse they want future generations to be the same… perhaps that’s why young kids are placed to live with other people. Who are carefully checked and proved just to be the right people for bringing up proper citizens. I wish and hope that this family and many others who have suffered from this horrible system will get all their children back. Sadly so many ruined lives are these days and not all people are able to speak up and resist the system or to get some help. There are also so many different charities that help people with different diseases. It would be great if there were some to help t deal with such situations. Because looks like it spreads everywhere in the world and carries danger to everyone. Not all people are aware of the present problems and imminent dangers, but as it grows more and more people will be involved and hopefully start working together against this wall.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Msn19</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 06:14:27 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ninel says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-440</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Lorel, you are right. I am agreeing with you in the idea that the children are stolen. It is the right calling of what has happened. The stolen happiness. It is awful. As for your wish to have children, you are absolutely right. The fear to lose your own children will be all the life, since you have children. That I can say you, as a mother of children. I love them with all my heart. But, of course, I am not an angel, and my children are not, though, for me they are the best. But there are moments, when I wish to punish them. I know that it is not allowed in the modern system of education. Today it is allowed only to speak to children and to explain or not to disturb them at all. But there are cases when you cannot bear already the situation and you begin to explode. So, in such situation I had to be afraid of myself in order not to harm my children. I am not saying now about punishment. I am saying about those people, who are very interesting in my personal life and could harm me and my children only by their dirty mouths. Because all these situations are possible only due to somebody`s dirty mouth. We should be very attentive to our children and to preserve them from those, who can come and take them away.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ninel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:44:48 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>lorel says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-436</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is story about stolen children. And these children were indeed stolen, otherwise how we can call if someone brakes into house and takes children without permission of parents and without any reason at all. And this is a world we live in. And I don't think it's only problem of USA, it can happen in almost any place in the world. The saddest thing that you are not secure from such situation where ever you live. USA, Canada, France, Great Britain etc. No one is protected. This is our realty. Personally I don't have children yet. But I want to have them in the future. And I'm really afraid. I'm not afraid of being pregnant or having children or raising them. But I'm do afraid of that one day somebody will come and take my children. For example I with my husbands are vegans (we don't eat animal based food, even eggs). So if someone doesn’t like it, my children can be taken. And i don't know what to do and how to take a chance and have a baby. I really wish to Pokrovsky family all the best and stop this nightmare as soon as possible. and have their children back in the closest future.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>lorel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:23:22 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Msn19 says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-434</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It has passed so many years since this horrible day when the kids have been taken away and still no result! Why the lawyers can’t do anything? And why Administration for Children's Services doesn’t obey decision of a court to give the children back to their family? Does it mean that this organization is higher in power and authority than the court itself and can do what ever they want even if the court and a judge says the other thing? I find it very strange, why would other people want to have someone’s kids so badly and cause so much problems for a family? And for long all this is going to last? Till these kids become adults and will have a right of their own to decide where to live and who to live with? There are so many things in the world to do! Why Pokrovski family has so struggle all the years fighting for their kids instead of living a normal life? And their children, what have they done wrong to suffer themselves? Looks like all the reasons why they took away the kids were made up just to get what these people want. And it doesn’t look any professional either to go into a family house with a bunch of papers and no id to show who you are, and then just walk in without an invitation of a host or a hostess of this house! No one can live and be sure that everything will be alright when such things happen to normal people. And lawyers along with legislative system and a court can’t help. Looks like we live in a chaos with no order at all. Morals of people continue fall, so much perversion these days we see everywhere, and even those who are there to make sure everything goes according to the law, God’s moral standards, just a common sense at last can’t do anything to improve the way we live. If people when they are adults do such horrible things and make our world a complete mess, it only means they were brought up by those who has made them believe it is normal and they are so blind now that they cant see what is right and what is not. Why they take away children of other families? Maybe they want to make them just as they are, to plant the seeds they have been fed themselves and to make them hate their own families, to lose any connection with the things important and give them false instead, to destroy their personality while they are so young and vulnerable. I hope that many more people will know about such situations and do everything to stop spreading this cancer into our world any further.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Msn19</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2014 08:10:51 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Liliana says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-433</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It's a very hard story, about which I read with a heavy heart. I do not understand where is the conscience of these people and where their compassion and empathy for people. So it is impossible to live peaceful, knowing that your children are constantly exposed to various threats and also it is not just simple treats, but there is still a danger that somebody will take them from you. Parents are very worry about their children; there are different hazards to children, especially crime. Nowadays, parents are afraid to leave their children unattended for a moment, and this is right, because in our world are a lot of crime. With that, every age has its dangers. In the childhood you worried, because he can not say what was wrong with him, he does not understand what he can do, and what not, then in adulthood there are another dangers, such as a teenager can contact with the wrong people, or get some sort of physical trauma. In teen age children are generally careless, but at least they can explain what sort of pain they have, where they spend time, what they were doing and so on, and our task is only to listen to these explanations, and in childhood the situation is worse. As in the case of family Pokrovsky . They have small children who require constant care. Young children need to constantly monitor, watch what they do, what they eat. Because very young children, can not even say that they are hungry. And I am very sorry for children of Pokrov, because I can imagine how they feel, like a little boy, which is lost, without parents. It is awful. And in this case have to be mother near the child. Because only mom have this mentally connection with the child, which helps to raise the baby, guess what he needs. She senses that need child when he wants to eat, when frozen, so on. And even if it seems mother caring excessive sometimes I think actually it is always timely. But in family Pokrovsky and in particular children Pokrovsky seized this opportunity, they may not wish their children goodnight, take care of them and it's very sad. But I am very glad that the parents of these poor children were determined and are very stubborn in the fight against this ruthless machine as social services. And I'm more pleased that they are religious. Because faith in God in such situations always helps. They are going in the right direction. And all of them will be good, because they are on the right. And if in the future they will also educate their children in this way, those children will be also good people and grow from their trauma, that they get being far away from their families and living in foster care, I think all this will corrected then. Because a good family can not grow bad people. It is simply impossible. And the faith in God have to descend. Only this way we can keep tradition and right way of life. And what I read about child trafficking, which was wrote by SanFran I just plunged into horror, I do not believe that in life there are people who take children and use black money on all this. And pay for all this huge amount of money. I do not understand this, if someone wants to adopt a child, why not take kids from the orphanage. After all, there are bunches of little kids who need help the family. Unfortunately, many mothers abandon their children to fend for themselves and there's no getting from this. So these kids need help. Take them out from this life, give them a good life and a chance for a better future. I am confident that these children will be very happy and will be very love their new parents, respect and appreciate for what they have done for them. I understand that not everyone is destined to have children. There are women, who are not able to give birth, but in any case you can do a good deal, you can give this child some light life. It's unfortunate that very few people use opportunity. And very sorry that there are such people who use legal methods and allegedly took away the children. Especially these people undermine trust in the law, and if everybody knew that we could rely on our laws, we would feel much more confident in our lives. And so we are constantly afraid of injustice in our direction and even the fact that no one can protect us from this injustice. Here, for example, as a family Pokrovsky. Not only that, children was took from them, I think that this is an injustice, considering their situation and that they are really good parents. Second, they try to take away their parental rights, which is also very strange, and third even when there is a decision of the court to return the children back, it still does not operate. I think, all this is not understandable. I can imagine how they must feel despair in such circumstances. But I'm glad that they did not despair and struggle on. Because the only way they will be able to restore the injustice and the only way to family re and happiness. Because there is nothing more in the world than a joyful family, laughing children and holidays together , especially while the kids are small and are so attached to their parents, because when they grow up, they will have their own family, their kids and their friends and not always get together to celebrate the holidays, and in general they will not see each other often. But I hope that this family get better in time, because there is no other way. And their faith in God will work and they will be happy.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Liliana</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:50:26 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>PInbin says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-431</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Ninel, I agree that such stories is our fault too. It can't be said that if we can do nothing, so it's not our question. When we are silent we are helping these people in their actions. We live in the world were people can be easily taken from loving parents, so we are guilty too :sad: and there are no needs to find different excuses, there are needs to find ways how to prevent it and how to stop it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>PInbin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:06:47 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ninel says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-427</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You are right. It is done against all the rules of God. It is so sad, that all of us have to live in this imperfect world. We have to watch as children are living without their parents. It is very sad. God created a world so beautiful. It should be a place of joy and happiness. And we see now that there is no happiness in many families. It is a tragedy for all the mankind. How could it be the reality? Why do we allow it? What can we do in order to prevent such tragedies in the families in the future? Our world is so imperfect that it seems God does not care about us. If children could be educated in the other families, it is already something not right. It is the kingdom of devil. In the kingdom of God it is not possible. We should be kinder, we should be more attentive to each other, e should notice the emotions of our relatives, and we should be more sympathic to our close relatives. We are too busy to see what is going on. We are too busy to ask our neighbor: how are you? We are too busy even to ask our own relatives. That is why such situations are possible in the world. We should do anything in order to save the world. We should do anything in order to save families. Our families. Love your children, love your spouses. They deserve it. Tell them about your love. Do not forget to kiss them. They are waiting for this kiss. Do not forget to hug them . they need it. It is the one thing that makes you feel better. If you know that you are beloved, then all the world is beautiful. So ,try to see your life, the actors of your life. do not be silly, notice everything. And we will be able to prevent the stories like Pokrovski family]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ninel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 15:04:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>PInbin says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-425</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I believe that this whole system of social workers completely contradicts the Lord's commandments. Following the example of the Pokrovsky family it becomes obviously that children were taken too quickly, decision to remove children are taken without lawyers, without being subject to the general system of justice. Is this normal justice? Children's rights take precedence over the rights of all other categories of citizens, making them completely powerless. Children's rights are understood in a very distorted form, in the sense that children can do anything, and any attempt to rise and punish them are considered as a violation of their rights and a crime that entails deprivation of parental rights and punishment. All this system contributes to the same technology, and it is denunciation of children on their parents, which as well can be called as betrayal. It is not according to the God's commandments. From the spiritual point of view of children are given parents by God, the family is the foundation of the world order created by God, and its destruction and removal of children without extreme necessity is another rebellion against God.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>PInbin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:36:51 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ninel says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-423</link>
			<description><![CDATA[How is it possible nowadays? We are living in the century of new technologies, new thoughts. It is the time of development in everything. And what do we get? Such discrimination? Who can explain me what is going on with us? Where is our love to mankind? Where is our sympathy? Our planet needs us. And we do nothing. Our family, our children need us. We have to do something. We have to be more loyal to each other. We have to be taught how to care about our kids. And not to listen to everybody, but only to our heart. It will always help us. It will lead us to the right destination, to the better life.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ninel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:52:52 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>arianna says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-421</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with "Wise". It is normal nowdays people are stealing kids and sell them or do whatever they consider to do. Actually it works when parents are totally deprived and they are becoming tired of doing anything or to spend so much money to get their children back. So manny years have passed and Pokrovski family are still fighting for their kids and they still have the faith one day they will take them home. It is so sad when people are acting like animals, and it is so nice there are such parents that will never ever give up and will fight for their babyes till the end. I believe Lord can see everything and He will do his best to keep that bastards away from POkrovski family and from their cute and beautiful children. Usually social workers are considered to take away people from families with disabilities, from families who are very poor and can't feed their childre. Yeah, I can understand it, but this situation is so strange and false... You know how many women who are afraid to seek help from their psichologysts because of depression or insomnia in fear of loosing their children??? I have just asked MNHQ if they would consider doing something with this. Because surely if so many of us fear to lose our children something is going wrong somewhere! Surely we should all be albe to seek help with confidence? What are your thoughts on this? I struggle with PTSD and even told my doctor that I tended to keep emotional distance from my ds when he's ill without even considering the possibility of that having repercussions. Surely the system is designed to help not hinder and they are falling far short. But then sometimes you read articles etc that encourage and support this view. Was it last week that that young girl ran away to ireland in fear of ss taking her child only to have this happen anyway?(there was a thread- and links to the relating articles that i can't find) and i find it terrifying that babies can be adopted when the mother still wants them-nickname i can't possibly imagine how this felt i am so sorry for you.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>arianna</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2014 17:29:37 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>SanFran says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-419</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I guess there is children traffic all over the world. It is a kind of Mafia who legally steal children. They use “legal” methods to take away healthy children from their parents, I am frightened to think what they can do to them. They abuse juvenile law system and pay to child care administration for child trafficking. Usually healthy kids (the younger - the better) are withdrawn. What are formal reasons for such withdrawals of children? There are medical indicators: a child is supposed to have incurable diseases that need special care which parents cannot afford. Or social indicators: wrong diet, toys are not enough, little space for games, religious family (that what happened to Pokrovsky), or depression and psychological problems of parents. I do not mention alcohol and drug problems, it is obvious that these are other type cases. And each of these reasons is exaggerated to terrible extend by the child mafia. As I read in many cases money have already been paid before children are withdrawn from the family. I do not know about USA but in Latvia according to some sources prices for adoptions are from $ 40,000 to $ 150,000. Like in Latvia, in addition to the black money per each child they get quite official state money. They select a poor family. And rarely a family with an average income. Socially unprotected family has not enough money for a long legal battle in juvenile courts. When a child is withdrawn, the juvenile court has the right to pass him over for adoption or for patronage. That’s not a case with Pokrovsky since the court has not deprived them of the parental rights. Thanks God, they have at least the possibility to see their children on regular basis. As Nikolay wrote initially Administration for Children's Services were hoping that the parents would be deported from the USA. That would mean they would never see their children. What happens to withdrawn children if they are adopted outside the country of their living is the big question. All information about a foster family and place of residence is very confidential and parents have no chance to find it out. In the practice of juvenile justice in EU and Scandinavia parents will never know their child’s location. Numerous cases of juvenile terror are described all over the world, but the law gives certain rights to Orphan (juvenile) courts, they have priority over the traditional rule of law in many cases. It seems that Europe goes mad. Over recent years a wave of child genocide ran over Europe. Scandinavia is awake now and starts to pay attention to procedure of children withdrawal. There are notifications that in Britain the social services act in the spirit of the fascist tradition. This is only my version. I suppose that some clients or sponsors interested in acquiring a child have their “paid” people in juvenile courts of Latvia. That’s why we come across the cases when courts allows withdrawal of a child, in fact, on frivolous pretexts. Let’s assume that the juvenile courts, for example, have its people "on the payroll" among doctors and social services. When a child is considered appropriate by those people, they analyze the situation concerning possible withdrawal. Corrupt medical staff fabricates false diagnosis or Child Care Administration exaggerates the conditions in which kids grow up (like in Pokrovsky family they stated that there was not enough food in the fridge, toys were lying in disorder). Under the false pretext a child is withdrawn, placed in an orphanage and later adopted. That how child trafficking works. Children can be lost beyond the borders of their own country. Parents are legally pushed aside of the processes. They understand that they have nothing to do. A juvenile court decides and makes its own decisions. Nobody practically can stop it. You can complain to the district court for the juvenile court actions. The legal battle may go on for years. And fro years you will be separated from your kids! And for years you will have to prove the incorrectness of withdrawal procedure of your child. Perhaps civil courts are also under pressure of the "child mafia". Have you noticed that the Child Care Administration have police functions and relative impunity? What do they do to Pokrovsky? They acted like police and they are not punished for their false actions. Parents risk never to see their baby. No matter how many evidences of good attitude towards your children you have. Those who got their money are not going to return it to the sponsors, to matter how many efforts you take to show that you are really good parents. You may bring your certificates of parental courses, go to a psychologist even (that is what Pokrovsky did). That is all does not work! Therefore the only deterrent in such cases is the moral stability of social workers. Everything depends on the ability to resist the pressure "black market" and those who pay. If they have hearts and they really care for children, they will never surrender to the temptation to take money from any sponsors. Money is degrading factor, it is always a temptation in any economic system, and it is up to those persons who works in Child Care Administration to maintain human attitude to families and to help them. Or they may choose another way: to play in Mafia’s team. We can all appeal to those members of Administration for Children's Services: please remember the money never will replace traditional morality and truth. At the state level it is necessary to achieve a ban on withdrawal of children before the juvenile court decision, revise the grounds for child withdrawal and to choose carefully those who will work in Administration for Children's Services. It would be very good to spend more money on social assistance services involving volunteers to help poor families, and increase parents’ benefits for children. We also need to provide broad public control through organizations, mass media, and spreading information on specific cases. I consider that Pokrovsky help very much to other people by creating these web-sites. They attract people who are indifferent to their children, they help and support by advice. We cannot be indifferent to such situations, we love our children!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SanFran</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:52:28 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Turtle says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-417</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Such thoughts could be in a head of poor three years old boy, which was taken away from his parents together with his younger brother and sister. He had a love of parents, attention, warmth and a lot of happiness. He built his boyish fun plans, enjoyed the life, adored his mother, was very proud of his father and learned how to be a clever elder brother to other younger children in this happy family. Nevertheless all his world was destroyed at one unblessed evening. Why? What has he done wrong to deserve such a punishment? The child feels guilty, because all his short life he was convinced that nothing bad can happen to you as long as you have a good behaviour. The boy takes offence at his parents, because they do not come to him, even though they know that he feels terrible here. He feels fear and loneliness. All these strangers around do not care about him. They do not console him or his crying brother and sister, do not give them food and do not think about place, where tired children could sleep. The only thing they are interested in is silence. Children should not whimper too loud and should not disturb adults to work. That day this boy had to grow up, to realise that some adults do not care about his feelings, does he want to eat, what a beautiful car he could paint with a red marker. He had to learn that dad is not omnipotent and his mother will not come to him, even if he is calling her. That day he learned what means people`s indifference and loneliness. He was only 3 years old. Was it necessary for him to get such a painful experience in so young age, when the most important things for human being is to feel himself protected, loved and desired? What kind of changes in his psychics, mentality, character and vision of right and wrong will further? Is it possible, that some day he will forgive his parents, will learn to trust people and to live with open soul? I hope answer will be positive. Hopefully Pokrovsky family invested enough love and attention to their older son for 3 years of nursing and he will be able to through this psychological injury and become a happy person. But what about the other two babies, who were only 1 and 2 years old at the time of this crime? I do not think they had enough time to take pleasure in dialogue with their parents and absorb their wisdom and love. Poor children, unhappy parents. How long this nightmare can last?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 07:54:49 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Turtle says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-416</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We have news! Our friendly family has moved into a huge beautiful apartment! Now I will have my own room! I will play with my interesting toys in the daytime and will put all them in their places before going to bed. Each machine will have its own garage! Besides, I will have my own closet! I will carefully hang trousers and jacket on hangers, but my T-shirts I will put on the shelf as neat as it makes my dad. Dad promised to go for a walk with us on the beach to see the ocean. Huge and blue. We will take our ball and will play football with him. We will build sandcastles and will swim a lot. Moreover, my dad promised to teach me fishing. Can`t wait for it! However, it will be tomorrow. Today we have to clean up the mess in our new house and to put out all our staff from boxes. But mum is calling to sleep. Already? But I am not finished yet! Tomorrow? Ok... I am going to clean my white teeth and wear my favourite pyjama with cool McQueen car! My mommy looks worried last days, thinking about some adult problems all the time. Hey, mum, everything is ok! Do not be so sad. I am already sleeping... Just would like to hear a song from you before sleeping. You sing so beautiful! About stars, about sun, about wonderful animals and little boy, who looks just like me... Oh. What a noise! Someone is knocking the door so loudly. Is it some terrible scary giant from a fairy tale? Or some unkind person wants to come in our home so late? I am sure, dad will not allow him to come in. My dad is strong and brave. He will protect us. Why is he continuing to disturb us? Oh. He is not alone. There is a whole crowd of evil people! They have some scary bright flash lights. Dad, banish them! I want to sleep. My eyes got tired. We will have a long day tomorrow. We will go for a walk to the beach. I have to sleep now. You said it yourself. Something happened. Mommy opened the door. She looks scared. Some strangers came into our house. I do not know them. They grab my mother's hands and lead her away from us. One of them told I have to go with them. But I do not want! I want to sleep! Dad says I have to obey them. Why? I have never came nowhere with strangers. It's dangerous. My mommy told that. These men are wearing beautiful clothes, but have unfriendly eyes. It seems to be they are not really happy to visit us so late. They took my younger brother, my sister and me and put us into nice car with flashing lights. Oh! This is the police car! I have such a toy. I like playing with it, imaging how police is catching the criminal. And now we are sitting inside of it. Does that mean we are criminals too? But we have done nothing any crime! I did not. I am a good child. Maybe my sister accidentally broke something and did not tell anyone? And now she's found and they want to punish her? I should ask her. But she does not answer. She is crying. She also wants to sleep. Or she feels uncomfortable. I also feel myself uncomfortable here. They did not prepare our comfortable child seats. We have never gone without them anywhere. This is very strange. We have stopped. Riding in the police car turned out not so much fun as I thought before. Where we are? Oh. This is the prison. It is terrible smell inside of it and unkind people around us . We were taken to some empty room and told to sit quietly. But my little brother cannot be quiet. He cries all the time. And sister looks very upset. Where is my mother? She never allows any of us to cry so much. It looks like we made something really bad that is why we are sitting here so long. I want to sleep so much...If I were now in my cosy bed under my warm blanket. But I am still here, in the prison, sitting on the hard bench. Like a real criminal. Mummy, when will you come and take us away from this terrible place? I am very sorry, if I did something wrong. I will be a very good boy. I promise. We are so waiting for you...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:49:37 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Turtle says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-413</link>
			<description><![CDATA[What a terrible story!I have already decided that humanity embarked on the path of spiritual development. I thought people have become kinder to each other , have learned to appreciate each other, started respect every person individually, not perceiving mankind as the huge crowd with common functions of eating, shopping and making money for the more successful individuals. I have got the feeling that we are moving toward for a happy future, that human relationships and happiness of each individual separately is already something valuable. I thought that people have learned to talk to each other, listen to each other and try not to cause harm to themselves or the world around them. That we have become older, wiser and kinder. That we have learned do not react to petty grievances, do not take revenge at the same second and do not fell into conflict after the slightest sign of discontent. That we learned, child is the most valuable and joyful gift that we can wait from the fate. However, for these little creatures themselves could become intelligent and merciful beings, we have to give them love, to put up in them our forces, time and efforts, patiently answer every silly question, surround them with happiness and peace.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 08:33:41 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Angelika says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-412</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think you have sense. Maybe, it is really so. Indeed, it looks like a true to be believed in. I have the same opinion about this situation. There are some more thoughts in my head. Maybe, this person who really thought that the activity of Pokrov movement is something bad was not in good relations with Nikolay. And he just decided to revenge. We can tell it here. There are persons in the world, who are angry, mean and cruel about others. I suppose it is impossible to solve this problem now without this man`s agreement. We can call it agreement, as I understand; he has to confirm that he declines his own words. Something like that. The problem is also in the movement itself. It exists. It has many followers. And the administration doesn`t like the growth of such a movement. Maybe, they press now on Nikolay in order to close at all the Pokrov movement. If it a true, it is very sad. Because Nikolay has to save his own children. And as we know, any of us would do anything to save our children. I think it could be solved only in the case of full acceptance the Pokrov movement by administration. They just have to understand that there is nothing dangerous, nothing bad. Only the principles of mankind, nature and harmony of a man are the basic statements of the movement. You see, there are many different movements, but this one is really unique. I have never met such a movement where people of all religions were together. It is wonderful. It is like Babylon reincarnation. This movement means for us too much. And I won`t let to destroy it. In our power to influence on the decision that will be done next time. The movement could be really the stone in this case. I truly believe the administration will try to analyze the principles of the movement`s work, the principles of its existing. Therefore, Pokrov movement means too much for most of its followers. As I understand there are many people who are alone in their thoughts, feelings and here they find everything they are looking for outside: the most important thing, support. And the question is one: how to explain to services that the Pokrov movement is really a shelter for most of its followers. There is a necessity in explaining that. I would prefer to try to find a answer to this difficult question.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Angelika</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 06:06:44 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Candy says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-411</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The situation with Pokrovsky family is not a single one. When the parents went to New York streets to look for support of stranger people they found several persons who got in the same situation. As we see this have been happening before – kids were taken away from their parents by some reasons. The most likely why this happened to Pokrovsky is that Administration for Children's Services considered that Pokrovsky founded a sect. And they decided that this is very dangerous for their children – as they may become a victims of any religious cult. This is not fair that Administration for Children's Services haven’t even tried to find out facts about religious activity of Pokrovsky. They might have been surprised to see how positive Nikolay’s religious movement is. No cult, no creasy ceremonies but only prayers and positive thinking. Yes, there are sect where kids were kept slavers and small girls started to have babies in 13 years old. But this is not such case. In Pokrovsky family the kids could only learn how to pray, to learn about new religions and religious traditions. Someone called Nikolay demanding to stop his religious activities. This person might also consider that Pokrov movement is a sect. Pokrovsky did not give up their activity, they continue with their movement as they believe that they do only good thing, there is no harm in their activity. They have proceeded to help people and try to unite them under a single roof of Pokrov movement. They believed that they are protected by law as there was nothing really harmful or dangerous in what they did. They were certain that the kids which were taken from them would come back soon…. Nothing have changed since 4 years…. The representatives of Administration for Children's Services are convinced that the kids must be away from their natural parents. And proceed in finding faults with Nikolay. I think they try to find so silly reasons to blame Nikolay. But how can they still ignore the court decision? The parents have their full parental right over the children, therefore they can come, take their children and not to return them to Administration for Children's Services? What they can do then? The kids will be in their natural family according to court decision. If the supervisors come to your house and try to take the children away by force then call the police and show them the court decision document.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:14:27 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>limon says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-408</link>
			<description><![CDATA[For God's sake, it is impossible to live in such a world, to give birth to children and to live happily ever after if there is no law and no right to live in peace and serenity.When you think to do something with your kids, to give them a education and to be afraid of saying them something or being a really mother and father who can help their babyes not to do mistakes or stuff. How come somebody has the right to tell me what education I have to give my children.How come somebody, who even doesn't know me or my family, can take any decisions regarding us? How come this people have this right to take children away from their parents? It is impossible to understand such situations, it's impossible to build a normal family and to live in a friendly and nice atmosphere. It is unbelievable how can somebody to destroy a family, just by making some notes in the notebook.How can something like this happen in this world? How do you, guys, think this family will live after? I would say Pokrovski family is a strong one. Too strong to give up and they are right. Just being so strong you can reach something, just being so strong and love your family so much you can make this stupid laws weak.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>limon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:19:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ruby  says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-404</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well we can’t tell for sure what is it, a punishment, a test or something else. But it’s been going on for many years and Pokrovski family never gave up on their children. Which is absolutely true and it is difficult to fight with all these people who are strongly against returning the kids back. If we think back and remember Soviet time, then people who didn’t fit with the government beliefs were exiled or executed and their kids were put in the orphanages, they never got back to their families. And that was a reality. People weren’t allowed to attend churches and they had to worship only a political leader as a God. Today no one is forced to do something like this, but discrimination and persecution still exists, even tough it is called a free world! No one of course would admit it, but we can see around what is going on. I think if more people were aware about similar cases like this and what injustice takes place today then people would be able to change the regime and do something about it. Today these social workers took Pokrovski’s kids but who is next? It could your neighbour or could be you! People don’t have to stay indifferent. Otherwise everything will go from bad to worse. And the result will be a total control and despair. No one would like such a dull future.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ruby </dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 02:04:31 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tor says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-402</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Kitnis, how can we know what is a punishment and what is a test. I definitely don't think that Pokrovskiy family is punished for something. And I think, that this case can be considered as a test for this family. But why children have to suffer? Why do they need this test? For what? I think that it is quite unfair. But who are we to decide and judge? The ways of God are inscrutable. And we can only pray for this family and hope for the best.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:49:07 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kitnis says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-400</link>
			<description><![CDATA[SanFran, I think that it is still not a punishment but a test. People are given tests sometimes for seeing if people are ready for something bigger and better or not. For example, how they react to any situation, how they will deal with it. And this is very important because, if a person accept the trials of life with humility and willingness, then he deserves to get a better life. And if he gets angry, revenge and do bad things to other people, then he is not worthy and he will be given the test as long as he does not become worthy. And now Pokrovsky have such a test. I think they will pass this life test with dignity and react adequately. Because they are people of faith, and people who keep God in the heart and always act with dignity. God always helps us. He always accompanies us even in difficult situations such as theirs. Because to live without children is very difficult, but once God gives the test, he gives the strength to endure them. And Pokrovsky also attempt to make these tests with dignity, because they have the strength that God gives them. I think they draw these forces in prayer, because prayer - is a very powerful thing. She is able to heal the heart and wounded soul and even treat bodily injury. Now, I think that prayers guide Pokrovsky family. And they do right. Prayer always betray the strength and ability to think clearly. It would send the right path. After the prayer I usually feel some enlightenment. Feel rejuvenated and fresh. The prayer act at me so. And I think most people who believe in God feel the same way. I think faith in God will help Pokrovsky children get back, because there is nothing in the world more holy for parents than their kids. They are the sense of our lives and we are responsible for how they will grow up. Because even scientists have proved that personality is formed since childhood. Almost from birth. Child perceives any signals, looks at the behavior of other people and so he begins to behave. Very often, the child can determine what his parents and what the situation in the family. Because if the house atmosphere is quiet and peaceful, the child is respectively the same. He is balanced, confident, because he knows that his family loves him, his family needs him. He believes in himself, in his future and in his happy life. And if the family quarrels, swearing, shouting, then the child is agitated and very original. Some became bullies and show aggression towards others, and all because they see this state home. And vice versa, some turn in close people and become withdrawn, uncommunicative and try to survive all the problems in his soul. Of course, they get success in this very rare and therefore turns in the end that child grows up with their psychological problems and injuries. And there are all defective families where children are constantly feel defective. They feel that their life lacks something, at what is missing the most important thing - it's native people. Mom or dad. And it's very scary because the child develops an inferiority complex, although it is not his fault. It is especially frustrating when the boy grows up without a father, or a girl without a mother. Because the boy needs a father, in order to show men's example. And if the father is not present, the boy takes the example of the mother and becomes mother’s son, which is also very sad. Or if a girl grows with the dad, she does not know how to behave in society with boys how to take care of herself, she did not ask for suggestions , so she often grows rough and unkempt. Yes there are exceptions to the girls who grow up with the dad and become beautiful, well-groomed princesses. But these are the exceptions, and they should just put a monument. And probably just this little girl on the way met a good friend or an aunt or a grandmother who helped her to understand the intricacies of feminine beauty and feminine charm. I always feel sorry for these children, because they have a lot harder live than the others, although they are not deserve such difficulties. They had to form their mind and behavior in more complex situations than their peers did. And sad that children Pokrovsky put into the same position, although the parents are alive, healthy and well educated their children. Nevertheless, despite this, the children still traumatized psyche and forced to grow in unhealthy conditions. I call these conditions unhealthy, because only in a complete family child can grow up healthy and happy. And the conditions in which children live, far from ideal. For example, these rooms with open outlets is dangerous for children, how social workers do not understand this? And living with someone else's uncles and aunts child still does not receive the share of love and affection, which can give native parents. And all for what? In order to show parents that they are not omnipotent and that the guardianship can do whatever they want? Even going against the court decision. I think it is not the purpose for which to break the life of children, and parents. I think we all understand, and so that any law can be find a gap and go as you want, it is possible to find fault at any parent and pick up his child. Because in any home where children live is not perfectly clean, because in any case where the children live, there is always a mess. Never gather all the children’s toys, because they will spread them anyway. We all understand that at any time the guardianship workers can come to any family and for one of these reasons to pick up the children. And the fact that even half of the parents does not pass special psychological courses I think everyone knows it, because all parents work to feed their children, so they have everything, so they have no time for such courses. Yes parents surely must somehow be mentally prepared for the birth of children. Read special books, watch movies, talk with other parents. But it can be done at home and in the evening before bedtime, do not necessarily go on courses and wasting precious time that could be spent on children. We have to spend more time for our children. For growing up a good child, we have to spend on child more time and less money.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kitnis</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:07:24 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pitbit says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-399</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Angelika and Kri-ket I'm with you. I also want to sign any necessary petition or other document. I think when we are all together we can influence something. One person can do nothing, but if we consolidate we will be able to help. So any legal methods have to be used. But i still thing that experience, good lawyer can do much more than all petitions pull together. The thing is that such lawyer is very expensive. Unfortunately, this is a world we live in, It is like that.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pitbit</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:37:22 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ruby  says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-398</link>
			<description><![CDATA[yeah I agree that what has happened to Pokrovsky family and other people in similar situation was done just to take control of people’s lives and tell them what to do from the view point of people directing the world and ruling the masses. If you do something that is disliked by movers and shakers, government and other important people then they want to do everything to make you do as they want you to do. And in case you disobey then your ids can be taken away like that or who knows what else can be done to destroy your life or of those close to you. I don’t know why people want to ruin normal relationships and families, it would much better for everyone and for the whole world just to live in peace and harmony and we see violence and degradation in our society instead! I am afraid USA is far not the only country where they have such horrible stories happening to normal people. Today on TV, in the news similar stories are told by many people who are looking for justice or just to be with their kids again. Kri-ket noticed very well that this story with Pokrovsky family “reflects our social morals”. And what will be next if today people, normal families are taken to prison for nothing in the middle of the night and their kids also have to suffer? It is scary to think about what future awaits us all! Yes also this consumerism, which is forced on everyone to buy more and to spend more as well. It doesn’t give people any true and eternal values, making them like animals, like a flock of sheep! And these social workers are used to manipulate people. Who knows they might even believe that they really help and change something for the better! Maybe it happens today because people are brainwashed every day through Mass media, internet, newspapers etc. and they take into their mind the things which actually are destroying for the person. I think if people, more and more people knew God and His Word, what is really important from spiritual point of view, not a worldly one, then we wouldn’t have to face such an awful thing. And if everyone is consumed with himself or herself and does everything disregarding everyone and everything then there would be a chaos and injustice in the world and such situations will grow more and more. It is time to stop and think in what future everyone wants to live in and what relationships to have. I am sure no one wants to be in the same situation that Pokrovski family have found themselves in.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ruby </dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:41:22 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Angelika says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-396</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Kri-ket, I am glad that you support me. I do understand the principle of how it goes. But I suppose Pokrovsky parents have tried this method already. If not, I am sure they have already read our notes. They are clever people. They have done their decisions. I am sure, they will try everything if not more. Parents have already tried so many ways! I am sure they will get their children back in the nearest future. The court has signed the case. So, it should be already finished. Parents have done so many different things, they have signed so many material for solving this problem. But all this will matter only in the case of getting children back home. My own subjective opinion is that children should be given back to parents immediately in order not to lose precious moments of their life. Their life should go near parents`. They have suffered enough. Children, unfortunately, know how cruel is our life. The system has done everything for this. I worry about children. They want home. But they have to bear being in the other house, in the other family. They do not have to suffer any more. Look at the picture where the children are. They are so sweet, they look like their parents. Very sad sight it is. I pretend not to know at all about such children, because I want to help them, to support them in their difficult times. But what can I do! I am so sad about that. I really hope that Pokrovsky will be strong enough to finish this case and to get their children back. I would like to see here a picture of Pokrovsky family together, hugging and laughing. I will be really please if it occurs. And it will. Because God exists. He hears our prayers. And I pray for these children. I really think about them and their happiness. People should pray for those who need prayers. God hears and understands. He will show the path, the way Pokrovsky family should follow. I am sure, they will see the sign won`t miss it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Angelika</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:54:31 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Just says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-394</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well, the situation is very complicated, I hate all this system that works upside down – they make thing worse that they were. These children were happily growing with their parents, why to take them away? These are silly and unjust mechanisms, and no one seem pay attention to this breakage in the system. They make us realize that we are very weak to face the system by alone. One of the solutions can be to find families with similar situations. The crowd can do more than a single family. I know that Pokrovskys were standing in New York streets to tell strangers about their situation. But usually the people in the streets are too busy with their own problems. May be there’s some sense in writing to some organization that support families in USA, such as American Family Association? If I would be in the Pokrovskys‘plac e I would start to struggle for my children with the same method as all those child supervisors do. What they actually do? They are constantly finding faults with the parents and writing reports on how they badly treat their kids. I would start writing such reports blaming those supervisors. You have many photos about how the kids live there. And there are many reasons for inspection of the place where these supervisors keep children.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Just</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 06:35:06 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Poland says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-393</link>
			<description><![CDATA[So do social services help or hinder in the children rising. Nowadays, perhaps, no one doubts that the child is not just a small adult and childhood is not just a period of human life from birth to adulthood. This is a special period. And in this age special approaches have to be implemented, as well as care and protection. Everyone who ever grew a plant knows that such important steps are necessary: watering, fertilizing, weeding and protection. If you miss something, you won’t get proper result, So the same with a child, once missing something you can get a lot of problems in the future. But what does stand behind the words protection and care? People understand it differently. But unfortunately social workers often think that words "violence", "pressure" , "coercion" usual mean hollo, coercion to clean a room, prohibition of communicating with the criminal company, failure in buying an expensive gadget. So because of such influence in child rising (influence of social workers) big problem can occure it the nearest future. It is obviously that it is possible to carp to everything (that's a vivid example from this article of Pokrovski family: uncleaned toys and dirty carpet.) Without any words, children must be protected. And the state has to provide this protection. Bot provide by helping the family in solving of the problems that have arose before it. Social workers are rightly perceived by majority of people as an instrument of punishment. The punishment is the impact on those who engaged in misconduct or crime. But some families really don't need to be punished, but to get help, participation and support. Unfortunately, they often do not get it, but rather normal family suffer. Pokrovsky family hold the fort! Everything will be great and your children somm will be home!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Poland</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 05:09:02 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>SanFran says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-391</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If one follows the saying “ life is ultimately fair and punish those who is guilty, everyone should be responsible for their actions” from the previous post we then must agree that this family, their father in particular is guilty in some actions, and was punished by life for such actions. And following this logic we should stop blaming Administration for Children's Services for taking children from this family. I do not know if Pokrovsky parents actually did something that deserves such a “punishment”, we will never know it. The only thing I know is that there are evil forces, and they can influence our life. They can make us suffer, cry and die. These forces eat our negative energy and energy of pain. They are interested in such actions that can lead to sufferings and growth of hatred among the people. In the material plan we all see how unjust Administration for Children's Services is in regarding to the The Pokrovsky family. But if we look from another, more subtle point of view, we can see the internal struggle between the Good powers and Evil powers. Nikolay is full of love and care about the people helping them to solve their problems. Moreover, we is eager to join people in one single religious movement. And he is very successful in his activities. It is clear that the Evil powers do not like it. There are people that are consciously or unconsciously ruled by Evil powers. They are recognized by their deeds. The Supervisor and some other members of Administration for Children's Services are such people. Of course all this done not openly, but we must understand that these people are just pawns in the Big Game of Evil powers. The purpose of the Game is to multiply the suffering in order to get more negative energy from humans. I do not see another way out but to pray for those members of Administration for Children's Services who became Evil’s soldiers. Only with the help of common prayer we can help them realize how cruel they are.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SanFran</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:55:00 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kitnis says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-390</link>
			<description><![CDATA[HelloK, yes you are right, maybe they're just afraid of those people who can fight back. Because it is not clear what in the mind of a drunkard or a drug addict. Drunk man can attack the officer, and he will have to defend themselves. And I do not think they have great skills in a physical fight, especially when the adversary use the weapons. Likely social workers will have to use a weapon themselves that will lead to bad consequences. And this is a lot of problems and they probably think that those kids are not worth all this attention, and the more problems and their intervention. Moreover, it's very sad, because those children who were born and live in such a family, they are doomed, they have no chance to get success, to break out of the people and become law-abiding and honest, because they have broken psyche since childhood. They see so family and think it should be so. And do not imagine that they can live somehow different. They just do not know how to build relationships with family and friends. And in the future are likely to be the same tyrants and drunkards, as well as their parents, if will be alive to create the family. Because these children often begin to take drugs or drink alcohol in adolescence, when their bodies are not developed at all that is detrimental to their health and body. Unfortunately, they soon die. And it is very sad, but it is statistics, and hard to argue with her . And apparently these workers are deeply concerned about the fate of these children. And it's not right, because they can and should take care of these children, give them a chance to make a normal prosperous family. Only then, the child have a chance and he can become a normal member of society. In all other cases, it is doomed because the alcohol is a very serious thing. But more serious is drugs and once tried man has not exactly come off with them without assistance, especially a child whose mind is not yet established, and who doesn’t know what is good and what is bad, and looking at his parents, he will just think that drugs – is good thing, because his parents are get drugs. It is very sad that no one is interested in the fate of these children. And no one want help them. Instead, they go into a good family. Where nobody need their help and where it is superfluous and even interfere. They do not help the children who need help. Moreover, they still bring harm. But I think life is ultimately fair and punish those who is guilty, everyone should be responsible for their actions. So whatever people do for us, we still have to treat them well. And we should never take revenge, better wait and see how it will make life for you. And it certainly will make things right.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kitnis</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:58:19 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kri-ket says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-386</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Angelika, what a great idea. I would do it with pleasure. But Unfortunately I don't know how to do it. Where to sign. And how this process has to be started at first. Maybe you can give some suggestions, if you know how to do it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kri-ket</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:04:20 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Angelika says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-385</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The entire situation with little children is awful. First of all, they are so little and have to live without parents. But why? Why do social workers do not really watch in the direction of the families where children do really need help. Why do children have to suffer? They are so innocent and so little. They do not have a real protection. In most families everything could happen. And social workers really do not come to the families, which need real help. I still wonder how it could happen in the family of Pokrovsky. I would like to underline the fact that in this family there was happiness. And now all the family suffers. On the photos we see how children hug their parents and it means that they feel good with their parents. Children now are in the other family and nobody could help them with the advice they need, with the good word, they need to hear. These children are suffering from the lack of attention. What will be when they become adults? Nobody knows what adults will be from them. Because they already have got the trauma. I want to hope that these children will be good parents in their future in spite of the situation they have to feel now. It is understandable, that most people worry about these children. Everybody could be in the place of this family. It is good, that parents did not break; they have enough strength to fight for the true in this world. They are the great example for those who are in the same situation. I just want to wish them to go till the end. Their children deserve to be in the family, with their own parents. Their children are so sweet and so nice! They want their family back. I hope everything will be good. And everybody will be happy. But what else do the parents have to do in order to get their children back? They have already done more than possible. They have organized such a support from so many places. Look, how many people support this family. I have an idea. Maybe, all of will sign up the petition and in this way the family will be reunited? Because the time passes, the children are growing up. Why not to try this way? I think it could help in such difficult situation. The most important is to get enough voices of us. But there so many of us here, that I suppose, it will be enough.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Angelika</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:42:15 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kri-ket says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-383</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The whole situation that has happened with Pokrovsky family reflects our social morals. They didn't fall out from nowhere on our heads, but they were taken voluntarily and knowingly by common people and were included in our daily life. In the ideology of consumerism, which dictates the various norms and standards of living we can't find fault of social services, we have to blame the people they-selves. In the set of ideology of permissiveness and "rights" that have come to stupidity we can't find fault of social services we have to blame the people they-selves. In the transformation of a child to the "home God", and his parents to child's subservient we can't find fault of social services we have to blame the people they-selves. In practice, when the status and social standing is obtaining not by lifting itself above the rest, but by sinking down all people around we can't find fault of social services we have to blame the people they-selves. Social services now is only concentration of the values ​​of the population. And the system want to fight with unlike people. Who do not serve to the God with the name Consumerism. A really good people suffer. But it is like always, always the innocents suffer.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kri-ket</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:16:58 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>HelloK says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-382</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Kitnis, unfortunately this is more then logical. These "heroes" social workers are simply afraid of such people. Can you imagine breaking into house of drag addicted people or alcoholics or other marginal people. Their reaction is unpredictable. They even can use weapon or simple kitchen knife to stop social workers. But normal people what can they do? They try to use legal means: courts etc. What law-abiding people can do? They definitely won't use violence.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>HelloK</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:07:20 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Viva says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-381</link>
			<description><![CDATA[So, is this normal? What is going on now? What is going on with our our world. Children can be taken so easily without any reasonable and understandable reason. And we can say that we all living in the normal world? The whole world is rolling to hell. And stupid are those who don't see it. Nearest future will show us how we were stupid. See, happy and loved children can be taken from the family according to some stupid reasons. I've read about unclean carpet, toys and other nonsense. It's not even a reason. And even having court decision no one don't even have an intention to return children. There is no justice in USA, no government, There is only collusion of some people. I definitely sure that there is such thing. And collusion exists. The purpose is to destroy normal family human relationship. And to make people less emotional and more manageable. Yes, you may say that I'm paranoid, but unfortunately I think future will prove very soon that I'm right.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Viva</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:24:47 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ruby  says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-378</link>
			<description><![CDATA[On the photos these children look really happy with their real family, well noticed by Angelika! I think if they were abusive towards their kids then it wouldn’t look like that. We would see horror, tears in the eyes of the kids, but everybody is smiling and laughing! Isn’t it a good sign of happy children and family as a whole!? Why then the social workers took away the kids? I think if it is discrimination of the family based on their religious views, then probably it is against the law as in the USA there is freedom of the views, including religious views one has. But then why not to point it out in the report? Obviously because it is against the law and would not be enough to take away the kids. And what kind of religious views do these social workers have themselves? If one thinks it is normal to go into somebody’s place without invitation from the host or put children and parents in the prison because the carpet is dirty then what views are they? Some antihuman ones, not supporting the families at all, instead breaking everyone. It is strange that you see there are so many people disagreeing with the system and the actions of the social workers , that it is quite often now when the kids are taken away, but looks like the government doesn’t listen to the voice of the people. Will it ever happen that people will be heard and their rights and freedoms will be fulfilled and respected? Because now it looks that only what the politicians want and other people with high position is taken into consideration. Yes I agree with people who compared the situation with the Middle Ages, where people had literally no rights, looks like no progress has been made since then. With all the technology and progress the human protection and the right priorities seem to be somewhere at the back. Poor children are the victims, looks like the people just use them to get what they want, that‘s it. I don’t know how in a civilized society such horrible situation has happened. There must be some human rights organizations, courts, they must also know about such injustice. Why to take away the normal childhood from these kids? Life is difficult as it is for everyone. And here are the small kids they don’t even understand everything and already had to experience something like this. It is absolutely disgusting! No one would agree that it is right, and if these social workers have the kids of their own, I am sure they wouldn’t want them to go through something similar to Pokrovski children! They need good people near them, their own mother and father, the yare so young, only their real parents can fully understand them and love and give all the attention they need. Normally it is understood and it is ok when kids are brought up in their native family. But why here we see that it is not considered as number one thing?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ruby </dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:20:09 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kitnis says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-377</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is a horrible story about poor children. It is strange that in families where children are beaten, social workers do not touch them, but in a family where children are happy, social workers take them. It is not logical. In fact, they took the children from the family without any reason. And it is a crime and an even greater crime not to give back these children after the court decision. Moreover, especially in fact that very much time has passed, why did they pull? Are they want to deprive parental rights? And on what basis? I think they will not succeed. First because they do not have the slightest reason for deprivation of parental rights, and because parents fighting for children and trying to return justice. Well, I still believe in justice and I hope that justice be restored. I hope that it will happen so. And indeed, it looks like a Middle Ages, ruled not by laws and judge, but tyranny and power. It's not like modern rational world. I can imagine how children grieve for their parents. Parents are adults and at least understand what there happen and they can make decisions and take the kids back, but the kids are small and probably do not understand what happening, and this is the hardest. And still a huge difficulty in this case is that it is not clear when this is all over, do not see any end or edge. And it is unclear how long all this will endure, and how long you have to fight, and miss your children. When there is a certain period of time, and you know that after this period, your suffering will end, easier to endure separation, and when it is not clear when this is all over, then it is probably very difficult to endure. More strange and very bad that children live in unsafe conditions, I think that if they live at the parent’s home, this would not have happened. Then the parents look after their children only, but there is apparently a lot of children and is an unsafe place. Sockets are not covered, calls to unsafe distance. It's all great risk for young children. After all, they do not know where and what dangers await them, is what we adults should protect them from these dangers, to explain what's what. And if we do not, then who will do this?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kitnis</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:29:41 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Angelika says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-370</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is absolutely sad to read the story of Pokrovsky family. Many families are in the same situation. I have read many stories already about the taking children of the families off. But this story makes me really think that the system that works in this field is absolutely not right. The parents are good, wonderful people. Just watch their photos. What will you see there? You will see a happy family with children, who are hugging their parents. They are laughing on the pictures and they are happy with their father and mother. Who doubts! There is nothing more precious in our life than children. But what will happen with children if to take them from the family off? They become sadder, they become not so happy, they are dreaming about their parents. So, children cannot already study good, they cannot concentrate on their tasks, because their brain thinks about the parents. I am sure in it, because as for myself, when I was a child, I remember how sad it was when I was left with my grandmother. And it is not somebody, it is native grandmother. But a child is missing his parents. I am sure the children in Pokrovsky family are also missing their parents. But they are even not with their grandmother. They are with the other people, those, who do not know their specialties, those, who do not know their tastes in food, their preferences, their beloved games. It is hard to live with people who do not understand you ,do not understand your inner world. I can only pretend to understand what do these children feel living in the other house. I would like also to point out, that I am telling all this because I do understand these children, and I really wish them all the best. These little angels are not guilty in the system, the world, that surrounds them. Why do they have to suffer? Why do they suffer from those silly ones, who do not want understand the inner world of these little people. Yes, they are only children, but they are already people. And they deserve the better life. They deserve to live with their own parents, in their own home. They deserve the normal life. I wish them to find their home. I wish the parents to close this case and to return their children already.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Angelika</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 02:05:46 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Ruby  says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-368</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well it is absolutely horrible that children are separated with their loving family without any reasonable point. Yes toys being on the floor is a stupid thing to say for children’s removal. What is really strange that it actually works! How people being in a good health and sanity can suggest it is enough to take away the kids? They must be completely crazy? What is wrong with toys on the floor? If they are on the shelves then how the children are gonna play? And if it is a toy railway, should it be on the shelve as well? I don’t understand the logic behind the decision to place the kids in another family. The beginning of it could be these calls where somebody was threatening the Porkrovski family. It could have brought the social workers around their place. Just one call by someone who really disliked the family and then everything has taken a dangerous turn. It is a real shame that kids have to suffer when they are so small. Obviously their interests are of no one’s concern at all. And social workers and all the lawyers probably think about their own life not of someone else’s children or their well-being. I have heard about similar situations in different countries, not just in the USA. I can agree that, let’s say 10 years ago, it was unlikely to happen. Well I don’t know where it came from, who originated this, but looks like it is nearly a normal thing when kids are just taken from their family without any problems. in the modern society. And people like government, lawyers, and social organizations can’t help at all. Even though they are supposed to protect the citizens and rights of people. It is a very unfair society, where it has all gone wrong? Why people should live in fear that someone can break into their homes so easily and ruin their life in a moment? It is not a free society or democracy, what ever everyone says it today, it doesn’t work like that. I am sure in the past people didn’t have such horrible and unjust things happening to them. Looks like people have changed a lot since then and thus the whole system and the world as a result of it. Because people make the world and if they were good then the world would be good as well. So sad that there are such persons who are mislead and do bad things but they think they are right and always do everything the best way. As a result of even one person’s wrong actions everyone suffers! But looks like people don’t understand it all. If people were more impartial and looked at the things they do from the distance, not trying to justify themselves, just from the position of morals, then they would see how much harm they bring. And if you put yourself in other people’s position then start looking at many things with new eyes. Whether the Pokrovski family was a victim of official religions or nor, one can only guess. But Nikolay wrote on the forum help with the situation that there were anonymous calls to stop what he was doing, perhaps they were calls from people doing similar thing and they wanted more clients for themselves. As to any religion, and in the USA the official religion was Christianity, then not one religion says to ever do harm to the others! Many politicians use religion to gain the support of the electors, to show as if they follow God’s way. But it is not true; it is just throwing dust in people’s eyes. No rituals, ceremonies, etc, will save a person if the his or her heart is corrupt and disobedient to God. I don’t think that the Bible or Quran or any holy book of official religion will teach to take away the kids from a loving family, rather it is done by those who rebel against God and want to sow hatred and grief in the world. If the politicians followed God sincerely and not just for the public, we wouldn’t have lived now the way we do. People make stupid choices and decisions and then everyone is affected. Wisdom today is a scarcity, and it can be learned only from God’s word, when applied it transforms the lives. If there are people who don’t seek God but their own desires, then disaster strikes. If these people who took away the children really thought what the children’s life would be like after such a big tragic event, they would have let them live where they were. And how many children in similar situation are there in the USA and other countries! How many broken lives for no reason at all!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ruby </dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:04:17 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>HelloK says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-366</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow, I'm really can't believe in this story. It's like Middle Ages when people had no rights. So nowadays everyone can enter any apartment and take children. Oh yes, this is not everyone this is a social workers. I think they have more rights than usual people. It's like quotation from my favourite book of George Orwell it is called "Animal Farm". So the quotation is “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” So these people are more equal than others. They have even more right than police. Police at least need warrant to brake into ones apartment. But in this case we see that all these people need is only their personal wish to enter an apartment. Frankly speaking, It seems to me that our society is really ill if let some strange people do such things and gave them so many powers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>HelloK</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:00:01 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tor says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-363</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I agree that the main reasom of all of such stories (were children were taken) is not casual or an accidental. Children were taken with the purpose. The situation with Pokrovsky families is bright (though very sad) example. Under the policy of social bodies parents are transferred from legal representatives having the right to principal raising of their children to the targets for legal and social services. The independence of the family and its right to decide private family issues are now under the threat. Traditional parent-child relationship is based on the subordination of juniors to senior family members. But now we all see that the rights of the child are considered as more prioritize then parent's rights. Children were convinced that parents are not central of the family, but a chief, judge, prosecutor are the main. Thus, the authority of parents was effectively undermined. It is impossible to explain to a little child mining of such word as a state, the child knows what such words as a mom, dad, grandma, grandpa meaning. But from all sides this child can hear "If your parents mistreated you, you can call us, talk about their problems with us, and we will help you." And he or she inadvertently decides that parents are his or her enemies, which the "good uncle and aunt " can help him to win. That's it. Families are destroying. And it is not an accidence or stupidity. No, this all comes from the state level.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 15:41:36 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pitbit says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-359</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Candy, you know. I'm also mother of two children. And according to my experience people who don't have children at all know best how to rise them. For, example my neighbour she always knows how to prevent children from crying, how to make them silent. And she likes giving me advice. Yes, she doesn’t have children (maybe it is her sorrow). But she is absolutely sure that children can seat calmly on one place for hours. And she doesn’t understand why my children always jump, when she sees them. And she tells me that I have to do something with it :D Because it's not normal. Why i'm writing it. I think here is the same situation. All these social workers don't have children at all. And of course they know best how mother of three children should behave and rise her children. maybe they think that children don't like playing with their toys :D they just like observing them on shelves.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pitbit</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:55:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pitbit says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-358</link>
			<description><![CDATA[yes, and this is the worst, that you wrote. That 10 years ago people wouldn't have believed in such situation. That someone can brake into the apartment and just take the children. And now I'm even afraid to think what is waiting for in the next 10 years.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pitbit</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:17:52 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Candy says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-356</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Guys, I even do not know what to say. It’s terrible situation; it is barbarous cruelty to take children away from their parents for no tangible reasons and keep them apart during 4 years! When I read this story of Kira and her husband, I really do feel for them. As I’m a mother of two children and I realize how strong the connection is between mother and her children. This is natural, physical and emotional connection, the need to stay together, and when it is lost it is the tragedy for children and mother. These people in ACS seem show only FORMAL CARE about the children. Together with Kira and her husband we can only guess why they did so… One of my suggestions is that the employers of “family care” organization are just pawns in someone’s political or\and religious game. They may do it as they are made to do it in order to save their own families or careers. Another suggestion is that the employers of “family care” organization do it according to their own strong belief that these children must be taken away from their parents. But it is incredible, we see that children were cared properly, and there’s no logical reason to punish parents and their kids. If the employers of so called “family care” organizations would go on with such an activity following their rules they can take children almost from every second family! Can you imagine 3 kinds playing with toys and running with food all day long, and after that washed out mommy must clear the house. She may just miss several toys or leave one corner unclean, because she is too exhausted, because she has THREE SMALL KIDS. Should we punish her for that? There is one more suggestion about why Pokrovsky family members are apart. They can be victims of official religions. Unfortunately the official religions too closely cling to politics nowadays. Or it is better to say that politics leans on official religion and see it as a means of people’s obedience. So, it is government that may be interested in destroying new religious and spiritual movements which make people think independently and not just follow traditional religious rules.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:42:47 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Angelika says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-354</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, I agree to Pitbit. He is right, unfortunately. Every day such situation could have taken place in every house. Nobody is protected from those who decide what to do and how to be. It is really very sad, but we should be very attentive in our attitude to the children. because nobody knows who is spying upon you and who will write a letter to You Know Where for blaming you in not fulfillment of your parental rights. I am sure, that all of those, who have children today are not in the same position as it was earlier in the world. Even several tens of years ago it was hard to find out that the same cases could happen. But, as you see, it happens and children with their parents are suffering. That is why now it is very important to help to the family of Pokrovsky in taking their children back, home.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Angelika</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 05:39:39 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pitbit says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-351</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is such sad and unfair situation. But I easily can belief in it. You know what? Nowadays, we can't find at least one child in our country which is safe enough and can't be removed from the family. You think it does not concern anyone of us? As we see form this story any one can be blamed by any ridiculous causes. We look at this picture with sad children and fill really sorry about it, but anyway we think that we are lucky and it has nothing to do with us. Do not be naive. Those who think this will not affect them are naive. Those who think that all these social workers think and act for the sake of children are naive. Parents have no rights and cannot intervene in their own family, so there is no protection of a child and its natural environment. Because parents are most important in child's life. And those who think they are perfect parents are naive too. If there is a system, which grinds the family, it does not matter what do you think about your parenting. It is only important that if someone wants to destroy you they can do it by well-oiled mechanism called child protection by social workers. Ask yourself what you will you do if someone threatens you to take away your children? Do you think they will take only children from "dysfunctional" families? What can be taken from them? And from you? How much will you give to get your children back? I think you will give everything you have and do everything you will be told to do. So don't be naive and think that this can happen only with Pokrovskiy family. Unfortunately, the answer is no. Tomorrow it can happen with each of us.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pitbit</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:48:56 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Angelika says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-350</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Children could be brought from the family in different reasons. But in the case of Pokrovsky family none of the reasons is suitable. How could you explain, that children were brought away by the reason that the toys were on the floor? Is it a rational thought? Surely, not. In many houses toys are on the floor. But it is not a reason for taking children from their home. I just try to understand what served as a first reason of the taking children? maybe, this question has even no answers. Because in such cases the matter of each case is dark and no one knows what is going on and what was in reality. But, anyway, while seeing parents and the pictures of the family, where they are together, who could doubt that this family was unhappy? I don’t think so. I suppose that this family was happy when an entire one was. But now it is really difficult to understand what was the beginning of the case, but the most important thing today is to realize how to help to Pokrovsky family, what could we do to unite the family. In my opinion, it is the main idea and we have to suggest here our proposals in improving the situation, while it is in progress and doesn`t reach its logical end. So, my proposal will be to make it more public and to make more people know about this situation in Pokrovsky family. Let`s try to make this problem more famous in the world.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Angelika</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:37:15 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Mary says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-344</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I would like to add, that it is really very difficult to live without your own parents. I have a friend, who lived without her parents for years; she was educated and was brought up by her beloved grandmother. Yes, she is absolutely adequate, she understands everything that is going on around her, but the problem is that she is very pity about her parents ,and she is really lonely without them .I do not want that people would be in this life without parents, especially if everything is ok ,and parents are alive. Parents it is very important in the life, because they guide us, they help us in the choice of our way, they show us what is good and what is bad, only parents can say us, if we do something wrong. I am really sad about those children who had t be without their own parents, because they are lonely, they do not get the needed attention, they do not get the needed love. Besides, it is already proved by the scientists that love our parents’ plays a very great role in our life. It is very important, because it gives us strength; it gives the motivation to live further. People who were in their childhood without their parents are more depressive, and even they do more suicides in the world! So, it is one of the main parts in the life of a person to have his parents nearby. Maybe, because parents are also an example for us, we watch how they live, how they. We see their relations and in our life we have the same relations in the family that we have already built. That is why our parents do really play a great role in the life of us. Our parents help us when we are already adults, but do not know which way to choose, how to act in this or that situation. They do a great work in our life. so, I do not understand when somebody says that it is not so important for him and he could live without his parents. Do not say in such manner! Look, how children already are without their parents and they have to live with this. Look and do not forget to phone to your own parents! Wish them Happy New Year!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 05:53:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Инга says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-341</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Parents lose their children, you are right, there is no doubt. What worse could happen to parents and their children? and how these children will live without their mother, without father, without their traditions and family laws. It seems these children are lost.. They are lost in our cruel society, in our society where there is everything possible, but not only good things. Especially when we speak about our children. In my opinion, there are no strange children, all of them so sweet, and all of them are ours. I hope you have caught my idea. What will be with these children in several years? I think they will forget everything that is connected to their family and they will know only the rules of the new family. I just imagine what are these children in the future. Will they remember their parents? Maybe they will not remember the common games, the common themes for conversation, the common evenings ear a fire, the feeling of that they are in common one family and not just for their family. That is why I would like to say that children need their parents. They need them now, not yesterday, they really need them in these minutes. And who knows how these children suffer from this now. Little poor sweets! I wish to Pokrovski family to reach the final at last in this New Year and to be happy in one full family.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Инга</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:18:16 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>People says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-339</link>
			<description><![CDATA[What is the difference between modern world and modern society and the classical Victorian society of XIX century? Do you remember Oliver Twist and other young heroes of Mr. Dickens? They were lost… but they were not stolen. Mr. Dickens described, how they were lost in London. Those days huge, cold and misty London looked like a inhuman creature, which killed hope and stole the faith and soul of inhabitants. But now in fast and modern world young gentlemen and lady (children pf Pokrovsky family) were stolen. They are not lost but stolen. And who was a thief? You will not believe me, but the thief is a social workers even the whole structure of social workers. They can steal kids from any family and destroy as their future of kids, as life of a whole family. Parents are loosing their kids. Kids are loosing their mother and father. And the souls, the faith and future of many peoples will be destroyed. I think in the modern world the price for such phantom thing like a social justice and equality is too high. Moreover, these phantoms will destroy our closest future. And when I think about our future I see only dark tunnel without end, where all of us is trembling with fear of social services. I can imagine these times, when social workers like black angels of destruction will be able to come into our families and destroy them. And abandoned families without babies will lose the precious things in their lives. I will really sorry to finish this year on such sad point, but this what I really feel.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>People</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:00:23 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Soleil says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-338</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I've also read an article where a journalist criticizes this system in the UK which "kidnaps children" literally for no reason. He speaks about some acquaintances of his whose children were taken away practically without any motive. One mother lost her three kids. They were taking a walk in the park and the mother was pulling her daughter holding her hand to the ground. After they paid a visit to the doctor, he reported the bruises on child's hand. Social workers without any explanation and without asking what happened sent the mother to psychiatrist, who, of course, had been paid to tell that she had a personality disorder. There were some other cases when parents were reported by some ill wishers, who think they do good to those kids and think of themselves as savers of somebody's lives, and were taken to prison without any explanation. The most insane story was about a mother who accidentally fell from a window and the social workers concluded that she was trying to commit suicide! They phoned her when she was lying in the hospital paralysed to announce that they are taking away her child. That's the most awful thing that can happen to a woman and I don't know how heartless should a person be to do such a thing. They decided everything by themselves with no research... Bad things happen...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Soleil</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:50:26 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Osa says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-337</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I believe that in some situation, we can do something and we can change situation, just sometimes you need more perseverance. You have to be more power. And in this case the family is right what they do. They keep force and it shows perseverance. They are great. But sometimes it happens that you just need to move back and the situation resolve itself. But I think that here it is not applicable, because the children are at stake. First, you need to think about them and their welfare. I think that there are no hopeless situations. Still, parents see sometimes their children and it is very pleasing, because quite without parents kiddies would be very difficult. At least some consolation. But I think that everything will be okay, otherwise there are can’t be. And New Year is soon and so want to believe that the new year miracles happen. I wish that Pokrovsky family will meet this holiday together.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Osa</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:21:10 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Claire says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-335</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I've studied a couple of articles and stumbled upon a social phenomenon known as "Stolen Generation" which took place in Australia. It's somehow different from what's going on in USA and some European countries, but has some similarities. The idea was to remove kids from aboriginal people/families in Australia. The government didn't believe in the aboriginal generation - in other words they were frightened by social rebellion in future. So, they decided to take kids under age of 5 from their families and educate them "in the right way" as white children, to make them patriots of their country and their government as well. This policy began in 1909 in Australia, but the phenomenon was known a lot earlier in European settlements, in the 19th century - kids were used as guides, servants and farm workers. In 1814 in Australia the first institution called Parramatta was founded to 'civilise' aboriginal kids. Although government claimed that all these they were doing for the sake of children, I, and not only me, consider that it was intended to separate kids from their own families and to raise a personality which would be more useful for the government and society. I think something similar is happening nowadays. Some try to change people's way of thinking, to change them in the way is suitable for somebody, I don't know who, maybe a secret society which has it's own aims. You see, the ACS doesn't give kids back although the court decided to return them and yet they are not punished! This means that somebody needs it in this way. I think all these government organizations know the impact which separation has on children. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission from Australia came to a conclusion after doing a research on the influence which has the separation of kids from their family: - Children are more exposed to mental illness, depression and low self-esteem; - They are more detached from society and are more vulnerable. - They are isolated from their native family and forget their roots, etc. Considering the fact that in this case children were taken from a Russian family, it's no wonder that they are not given back. The whole world is aware of the briliant mind Russians have and of their capabilities which is in their DNA, and all are familiar with the phenomenon called "brain drain". I think every country is trying to allure the brightest minds and use them on their own account. I think you follow what I want to say. It would be very hard to fight them back. However, Pokrovski family should not fall into despair. I know many families which left their own countries because they were threatened that their kids would be taken away. I think it is the only chance to preserve the integrity of the family. We are too weak to struggle with this system. I hope at least something will change in our society.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:33:57 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pacific says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-332</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Mary, I'm glad that somebody is thinning the same way as I do. I'm afraid that people see nothing, that don't understand what is coming, and what is waiting for us. I'm trying to explain and tell people what are coming. That Big Brother is almost here. That right now some people can come and take our children illegally. And we can do nothing with it. But people don't want to listen to news they don't like. I'm afraid that some day it can be late.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pacific</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 04:18:26 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Osa says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-326</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, I also think about future. If today is so easy to take children from their family, what will be tomorrow? All in our world is developing and this system is also growing, and if we do not have control over it, what happens next? It turns out that we don’t have control over the fact that we was created, and in fact we should have control? That all social services was created to help people, and it turns out that they only hinder and go in harm. That is why you need to change something; we have to rebuild the system somehow and to do so that it did not bring damage. I believe that this should be done as soon as possible before it will be too late, because even today it brings so much harm, and what will be in the future? It can’t be adjust by itself. I believe that we need to take all this in our hands and to influence on it. This is incorrect system, which allows children to live so long away from their parents, which they love. Firstly, we need to engage the public, such as close friends of family, their friends, who know the conditions in which children live and who can also express their opinion on this matter. I think the court need to give power to the opinion of this people, so that they could influence the decision of the court and help children return home. But then as I understand it, even the decision of the court is not satisfied because the court has already made a decision to return children at home. And I think this is right decision, which for some reason still does not want to do, it's very strange, because the children lived in a good family. Why they was to taken from the family? But I am glad that the court understood the situation and recognized that children should live at home. Because the best place for children is at home, but not anywhere else. I am glad that there are intelligent people who understand it. It just remain to execute the court decision and explain to others that it is necessary to implement of this decision.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Osa</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 11:22:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Green says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-325</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I agree with Tinok that the system is absolutely wrong. It is 100 % parents’ responsibility and commitment to bring up, educate, and care for their children. Of course children don’t understand anything that’s why it is easy to manipulate them, what social workers clearly understand and use in their own selfish interests! The system is really, if you look deep into it, making children turn against their own parents, those who really care and love! To sue your own mother or father is it normal? Well these people in power say that it is, doing so they put hatred, anger, and disrespect in vulnerable children’s hearts! And it really destroys any fundament of good and right relationships in the society. The result- everyone suffers. But those on the top don’t seem to care about planting good into people’s hearts. They just want to twist and pervert everything. You are a happy family- well they will break you and make you suffer. Your children are healthy –they will make them ill. And it is all done for some good reason- for protection rights of a child for one thing. I find that situation with Pokrovski family is outrageous and it demonstrates the weak sides and the gaps in the system. It shows how easy it could be to ruin somebody’s life and bear no responsibility for this. It shouldn’t be this way of course. I think that looking at how many people agreed that actions of the social workers were wrong shows people do understand what is right and what is not. But how those in authority can not see such things? What should be done to make them look through the mistakes and blunders and change the way the things work at the moment? Pokrovski have been fighting for their rights for so many years but their kids are still living with somebody else. It is period of their lives when they grow so fast and need parents to be with them. It is so sad that no time will be turned back and these moments they have to spend with strangers. Not all people are so strong like this family. Not everyone can continue going on for years fighting, and seeing that this wall is not collapsing. Some people don’t have good health or become so ill under all the life pressures that simply can not continue to continue confrontation with the system. Also support of the other people, your friends, family and others compassionate and kind-hearted people is essential. There are so many people who are lonely, don’t have enough funds, support and people just take away their kids knowing that they can’t find back. It just sounds like the survival of the fittest. So primitive and backwards, yet flourishing in the modern social environment. Yeah the toys being the reason for kids removal is just nonsense! Why you would need toys if not for the kids to play with? And it is really strange that such stupid causes actually work. So it means somebody on the top has actually designed somehow such ridiculous points and reasons for destroying the families and got a support! If it works it means such process got a full support of the majority. I wonder if anyone actually let people know about it and asked opinion of the common people? Or all the decision influencing everyone has been made by some elite little group of people who think thee know better than everyone else what should and what should not be done? And what about the court decision indeed? Or the court today is of no real significance? Why then we would need the legal court system if no one doesn’t listen to its decisions and it is alright, you will get away with it easily. It is strange when people obey the court decision when children sue their own parents and put them in prison or a spoilt child in court makes parents give them pocket money but when decision is made for kids to live with their real family not a foster carers then it is ignored. Looks like a selective process when people follow only what suits them best. I wonder and how the children live now with other people? Do they let them play with toys and what about their carpet? Well whether their carpet is clean or not, or toys, are they scattered? Or maybe there are no toys at all for keeping the place clean and tidy to please the social workers. But seeing the condition of the children it is obvious they feel much worse than before when they lived with their mother and father. And so what if a toy is on the floor but the child is happy and healthy, is it not better being so? Or it is good when a child is depressed and needs constant visits to the doctors? Well let’s just hope that these people will see what is really good for the kids and not for their own career.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Green</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 08:23:57 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Mary says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-320</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, Pacific, I think that something terrible is waiting on us. If today it is already so easy to leave children without their parents and to put them in the other family, what could be tomorrow? If today the laws are so cruel for children and the court has such a decision, what laws could be affirmed tomorrow and what words would be said in the court? I have noticed that in the history of the mankind the life becomes more difficult, more complicated. People are getting to use being more attentive, being more watchful and suspicious. It is not good. The mankind with such high and quick development of everything should become clearer, because in the nearest future there would be already such goods, that today we only dream about. I think that Pokrov family should be quicker that the system and should take their children home as soon as it is only possible. However, it is a pity they still cannot take them. I wonder how these social workers live their life. Do they understand what a pain is in Pokrov`s family? Do they understand how hard it is to be without your own children? only people, who have them could understand what I am writing here about. Our children is everything, it is our life, our hopes, our laugh, our sorrows and our joy. And now parents of these young sweets are deprived of this happiness to feel their own children every day. It is not fair, because all of us know that the parents are good people and they are really kind and nice. Just look at these photos, where they are together. Only in the family where there is love, children and parents are laughing and hugging. I still don`t know any family, where children are not happy with their parents. And this family is not exclusion. They should be together, because they the one family and they need to be together.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:52:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Pacific says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-319</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Poor, poor children and their parents. First of all, I want to note that this "strange" withdrawal of children from families because of poverty, poor housing conditions etc, as well as reclamation to parents that they are always guilty for everything are becoming more and more prevalent. Rules allowing such an unnatural way to "protect" children and to separate them with their parents and to destroy normal, decent family have already been introduced in laws. See, broad and rather vague criteria by which children can be withdrawn from the family have already acquired. It all provokes a further injection of social tension, which is already high. I'm really afraid that children can be seized "under the order". Because as I said, now taken out of the family is getting much easier thanks to the "rubber" formulations and criteria. Here is the clearest example: toys, carpet, courses and other nonsense. And the great family was separated and children now are suffering. Is it normal? I fear that we are on the verge of terrible things that are coming, as well I invoke all of you to try to revive traditional morality, traditional family.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Pacific</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:04:55 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Osa says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-316</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I am really agree with others that this social workers more destroy this family then help them. How you can help by separating children from their parents. It is unbelievable. I also agree with Peper, they just wanted to show on the family Pokrovsky for us how we are weak and dependent on the state, even the laws and the court decision will not affect our destiny. This is wrong situation, but it is good that Pokrovsky have forces to fight for justice and their children. But if someone does not have such an opportunity? What these poor people have to do? And about the money, I 'm even afraid to think that someone is making money on this situation. In fact, earn money by children. I realize of course that probably the way it is, but it's frightening me to imagine that this is our reality. How you have to be so insensitive, for doing this and to earn money this way. When so vengeance on the children, it is awful. Because they are small and helpless that they can oppose adults? It is nothing. Because we are responsible for them. And if this is so, then we are bad citizens. Need to change something, in the first place our attitude to everything going on, because we often think that if I was not concerned, so do not need to climb, but in fact it's just our indifference . I believe that something in our lives will change only when we choose to be indifferent and start helping each other. In this story, so much injustice that just no words. I now agree with Mary, that cavil to toys , it's just an excuse . How can toy lying in the shelves where children live in the house? After all, toys are created to play with them and not lying in the shelves. So it's just fake accusations, like everyone else. I just do not understand how this can’t see the workers. How can they wrongly blame the parents? If they could have found something worthwhile. In addition, I think the thing is that they could not find anything worthwhile. Because the family is living a happy and well life, and children are growing up properly, that is why they try to find stupid reasons. Really, what else complain about? If the children are fed, clean, well-fed , healthy, develop normally for their age, live in good conditions, what else complain about ? Here are the non-existent reasons are invented. After reading all, get the feeling that the most important is not a court and laws , and workers ACS. They live their lives, go against the court decision, and do what they want. It is an arbitrariness. In any case, children need parental warmth, and because of this injustice, children are deprived of the most important thing in life. Especially when kids are small, they want to be constantly with parents, so they feel safe. Because when parents are with child, he knows that nothing bad happen to him.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Osa</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2013 04:40:32 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Claire says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-314</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Mary, they'll get them back when it's time, only God knows when...Now, when they are far from their parents, the family they are with should help them. I understand that this is an immense psychological trauma for them, unfortunately, but they should also be strong and wait. I don't understand how it is possible to keep the kids away from their family when the court decided otherwise. There should be something else, the info we don't get. Why court doesn't penalize them for what they are doing? The parents should clarify this for sure. I'm really curious whether there is any news or not. Are there any changes? This is sad that in several days there's Christmas and the family is apart...The period when families should celebrate together. And I say Merry Christmas to everyone and for Pokrovski family - may your and your children wishes come true!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:11:13 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Mary says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-311</link>
			<description><![CDATA[100% you are right! I agree with you, that Pokrovski family should struggle until they will get their children back home. I see how much they have already done, and it I amazing! The family is trying its best to get the children back. I am sure they will get them. The question is only: when? How much do they have to wait anymore? The children are still growing without parents. The children are still without their parents. And who will help them when they need their parents? And in the life of a teenager there are so many questions! There are so many situations where he really needs the help of his parents, their advice and their ability to explain everything in a better way. I remember myself in these years; I was in need of my parents every day. They explained me everything that was not understandable to me. They could give me a chance to learn something, just controlling my actions, but not involving in the process. I watch now my children and I understand, that they also need me every day and nor once a day, they need me thousands of times in a day! They want to know everything about the world, they want to participate in the life of the world, they want to play new games, they want to read new books, and they want to get new emotions. Who can give me all this? I think, only mother and father are able to give their children everything they want and need. I suppose, the key word here is “need”. And the children from Pokrovski family want the same things. Who can give them the better world with the sunny days on the seaside, with the wonderful weekends on the nature, with the sweetest winter evenings, sitting with their parents and reading fairy tales? Who can give them all this? I am sure, only parents! And the court should rewatch this case and should give another answer to Pokrovski family. Only people who love their children could do so many things in order to get back their children. Not everyone is able to be so strong enough and to continue to struggle for the most important in the life: the children. But Pokrovsky family could. And they deserve to be with their children!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2013 03:36:38 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Claire says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-306</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with you. Until children are the age of 16-18 they have to be educated by parents. A parent knows better his child and what is better for his child. However parents from their part shouln't be too strict and decide everything for their child. He has to be somewhat free to choose, otherwise he won't integrate into the society. Kids usually think they understand everything, but they are often wrong, they don't have that life experience and knowledge to think objectively and understand what's going on around. Besides, they are very egocentric and continue to think that life is kind of a game like in their childhood. When they do something foolish, like suing their parents and when they encounter this situation when they are taken away from home and given to another family, they do become to realize what they did. I agree that the system is wrong, but I do also think that it is not wrong by mistake or coincidence, it was made so intentionally. The reason? To destroy the society, to isolate people to better manipulate them. On the other hand, I think that this organization or service is needed in a civilized society. There are many cases when both parents or one of them mistreats their child and there should be someone out there who could protect that kid. It should be a law explained in detail in the way that it is difficult to misinterpret it, so that people couldn't harm and hurt others. It should be stated clearly when and in which circumstances this law should be applied. And I think if an ACS supervisor made a mistake like in this case on purpose, he should be relieved of his post, so that others see and don't repeat his lapse. Of course, the thing that ACS didn't abide court decision and remained "unpunished" is a big gap in USA legislation. Pokrovski family should struggle to the last until they fight their children back.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:58:25 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tinok says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-305</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This system is wrong. It is the purest nonsense. Let's look at a specific example. I'm a father. I have 16 year old son. I've been raising him for all his life, I bought him clothed, fed him, paid for school, made other payment, put into him my soul ... And now the son has committed a major offense. For example, he insulted his mother, or it's something drug-related or he robbed a neighbor. Naturally, I can strictly punish him. I have the right to put him on the right path! And then he goes to court and says that his father does not fulfill parental responsibilitie s. Huh? What ? ? Parents should and must have the full right to rise their child. Moreover, it's worldwide recognized that before coming to the age of 16-18 years old it's forbidden to engage CHILD in sexual activity, to marry, to have children, to drive cars .... Children understand nothing. And another example. For example, a son wants a computer, and the father and mother are cash-strapped and can not buy him a computer. What is next? Child sues, and the state imposes exorbitant fines on parents for what they "restrict child access to information technology". Nonsense. Isn't it? Therefore, I express my sympathy to the Pokrovsky family. Who are now in such nightmarish situation.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tinok</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:21:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Green says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-304</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is sad that social workers can just interfere with normal families and take kids away from them so easily. I wonder are there actually social workers who really help those who needs it? I don’t know, let’s say a child lives with abusive family or drug- addicts and social workers notice it and do everything to save such kids? From the papers, TV, news you hear again and again just like another kid suffers or, what is even worse, dies as a result of treatment from his parents. And the reasonable question to ask is where have been all the social services all these time? Nobody has noticed what was going on with that family or what? And lately there is an enormous lot of such troubling life stories. Last week I have read a grandmother had called police cause she has found her granddaughter, a baby a couple months old, was all bitten and mistreated by her mother. And she was just carrying her dead body upside down in her apartment. And it is not a one-off example. Around the world it happens all the time now. I wonder in the past did people also have as many horrible things like these happening or is it a unique feature of our time? Well I guess if there are corrupt people who care only about their own wellbeing and don’t live the way God wants us to, and then of course that’s exactly what we get. Taking into account all the problems Pokrovsky children ran into as a result of such legal kidnapping, one can start wondering why they made from healthy and happy kids those with depression, illnesses, and sadness in their eyes? Is it a positive social effect that authorities work on so hard or what is it? And the main reason, if they fight so hard to care for the children and even it looks as if the responsible social people go out of the way to ensure the kids are safe, then seeing all the harm they have done and compare the condition of the kids now and before when they lived with their family, don’t they see the difference at all? You must be completely blind not to notice what is good and what is not. Well perhaps it is a cover to say that the main objective is happiness of a child. Well let’s agree if you say something that sounds like a good cause then people will support you. But there is an interesting truth how to distinguish true from lie and was known since ages ago. To put it more exactly the Book of Matthew 12:33-35 in the Bible says that A Tree Is Known by Its Fruit: 33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad, for the tree is known by its fruit. 34 You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil”. In the actions of these people I can see a lot of damage they caused to this family and the children. In addition they even escape following the law, but the judge declared kids to be with their real family. Well they just manipulate the kids to gain something for themselves or those behind them. Perhaps there is a material financial gain in this entire situation as alex suggested they might get any benefit from taking the children or they are biased towards Russians, or this family in particular, or religious discrimination, well anything really can be the reason. Those wanting to do something bad will always find the reason to get what they want, even make up some positive reasons, even charitable ones to reach their ugly goal. As far as I know America has started with the emigrants, they came and drove away all the indigenous populations – Indians. Today it is a melting pot of people from all the world. So I don’t see why they would hate people from other countries when they themselves don’t belong here historically at all? They have roots going back to other places. And all the democracy they are so proud of is really just a fake if you discriminate people. I don’t know for how long else these children must suffer, and there must be many more in similar situation. If it happens obviously something is wrong with the society and people’s conscience.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Green</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:33:07 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Peper says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-302</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Blink, thank you for agreeing with my opinion. I believe in and I will never tire of repeating that the arbitrariness of socials workers is possible due to their virtually unlimited powers, and a very broad interpretation of the rights of the child with almost complete absence of child’s' duties and a complete disregard of the parents rights. With such approach parents are "under the hood". From an invasion of such workers any family is not insured. And the law in this case is much more important than the interests of these children who were taken against their will from the natural parents. A lot of family tragedies hide under favorable figures of their reports. Socials workers have no right for mistake.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Peper</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:15:37 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>alex says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-301</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It's really funny all this. To go agains the decision of the court? Why Pokrovsky family don't go to the court again and don't make a claim against ACS or even sue them? It's their full right to do this! Other parents should be very careful while speaking with ACS workers or even other people, because they may get in the same situation as Pokrovsky family. If they do not abide to laws than you should be very, very careful. But there is always a limit. If they cross it than you should proceed and defend your rights. Injustice now is everywhere, in every country, and I doubt that a hand of people will make a difference. If you don't want your children to be taken away, respect and do whatever ACS workers tell you. This is a cruel reality. Better go to special courses and keep clean, than to remain without your kids. I don't imagine and I would not like to know how is this to live 4 years far from your kids. I'd better leave everything and move to another country than suffer like this. I sincerely hope that Porkrovsky children will come back home and they will live happily.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:56:15 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Soleil says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-298</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is an out of control situation. The ACS are wrong and they know it, however they are pursuing some purpose and no one knows which. We are left only to guess. In my opinion you just offended their worker in a bad way and they just don't want to forgive and forget this. But, as I was reading other comments, I noticed that many users think it's a flaw of this imperfect system. The workers don't do what they are supposed to - take kids away from their bad parents and help them. Instead they take children from good families without any remorse. It's an unspeakable cruelty. Just imagine what psychological trauma that kid will get. In future this trauma will trigger a lot of inferiority complexes. Would anyone do this to their kids? No way. Why don't they care about other kids? Don't you have a little bit of compassion left somewhere in the dark corner of your soul? I can't believe this is happening in the XXI century, the contemporary era of comfort and facilities. What more do you need? I do not understand. Let other people live their life happily and do not interfere, for God's sake, at least not in the happy families. Dear ACS workers, have a little respect for good people, because, if they disappear, the life won't be as good as it is now, and you may regret later.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Soleil</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:02:30 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Mary says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-297</link>
			<description><![CDATA[How is it possible? What is going on in the world? The families where there are unclean toys and they are not on their places are treated in such way? So what to say about most of us? I am sure in most flats there are toys on the floor, because what for do we need the toys? Children are playing with them. How do they play? They take their toys and they have some situations and so on, where the toys are the main artists. And, I wonder, how do the children of social workers play? They just watch the toys, don`t put them into the mouth and then don`t throw them on the floor? It is really very interesting! How could be toys on their places, if they are PLAYED? It is so unclear, unfair and there should be a court, which will be on the right side of Pokrov family. Because I don`t suppose that it is a reason to take children off from the family. I am sure that also may other families have the same played toys that are thrown on the floor. So, what to do? To take all the children from their families? It is so strange! I don`t have even enough temper to discuss this situation. As only Pokrov family could bear this treatment? They are so patient people. They let those social workers come in their house, although, all of us know, that they have no right to come in the house without agreement of the inhabitants of that house. That`s why they came in the night. Because they understand that people are tired, they are after the working day, the children already sleep, and that`s why they decided to come to Pokrov family. It is unbelievable. Only people without heart could do such things.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:13:58 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Blink says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-296</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Peper, I totally agree with you that this situation is warning. So it's obvious that every one can be treated like this. If someone decides to stand out of the crowd or to go "against the tide" so they can be punished or other remedy can be be applied to them. So we have very powerful mechanism of influence on people that don't want to be in a line. Today's system is done for ordinary people. Now changes are accepted. And children are always were powerful lever. Dear Pokrovsky parents don't give up. Only don't give up. Such inordinate people always find their way. And you will find how to return your children I'm absolutely sure.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Blink</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:42:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Peper says:</title>
			<link>https://pokrov.com/en/articles/cover/58-qui-diriti-part-2#comment-290</link>
			<description><![CDATA[A lot of people in here asked "why is it Pokrovsky family?", why are they namely? i think the reason is some people wanted to show them (and maybe other people) that all parents are totally depend on the state and at any moment they can be "influenced" through the children, etc. Thus, a citizen forced to act in the government’s interests. Everyone understands when it comes to children parents would do whatever they were told to do. So as for me Pokrovsky family is a good example and warning for others. Plus concerning all these bodies (all social workers institutions), they are a kind of state within a state. It is a powerful machine. And plus money... Money run the world. It's very easy to earn money "form children". They don't rise children, but they make them orphans. Usually the most socially unprotected families get under attentions of such workers. Effectiveness of such workers are estimated according to the number of children that were taken away. So this is also a big point to take as much children as possible. The more children will be "protected" from their parents so the faster they get advancement through the ranks and more bonuses will receive.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Peper</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:06:20 -0500</pubDate>
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